Sir Swagalot

6mo

“mid/side processing”

could you elaborate on what this means please

Water Giver

6mo

i was giving a more general answer on how to edit dry drums - which most people feel their "drums are bad" because there is literally nothing done or used on it

jungle - techno its electronic and besides the point - i didnt mean that its the genre op is going after, again, i agev an example of a dry drum and sound being turned into something recognizable

a bit crusher "degrades" the sound of "too clean" sounds - there are extreme ways of doing it and subtle ways - i disagree and a lot of drum machines already have a lot of these componetes happening on top of the actual sound

i dont understand your nitpick, its not a direct answer to op, its an example of a way to turn/transform dry, computerized or "too clean" sounds

Water Giver

6mo

no a delay that add more "drum" sounds as if the drummer is moving across snares himself instead of it being so on the nose or planted - such as is an extremely common way echoboy is used

again, youre taking an extreme or only one way of how to do something and assuming thats what i mean or am only offering

Mark Moschino

6mo

the difference between genres of music are important especially considering the processing of which are completely different. I don't want op spending 3 hours googling techno processing and not coming away with what they want

Mark Moschino

6mo

mid/side is essentially processing the "sides" (think stereo) seperately from the "Middle" (think mono) of the sounds so for instance

if you have a drum break thats one recording of a full kit you could eq all of the lows out of the sides (again think stereo left and right) to make the kick more prevalent in the middle.

Mark Moschino

6mo

mid/side is essentially processing the "sides" (think stereo) seperately from the "Middle" (think mono) of the sounds so for instance

if you have a drum break thats one recording of a full kit you could eq all of the lows out of the sides (again think stereo left and right) to make the kick more prevalent in the middle.

Mark Moschino

6mo

he's not talking about dry or clean or processing with the synthesized feel thing tho he's talking about a break's pattern being programmed on a drum machine

Sir Swagalot

6mo

oh ok so correct me if i’m wrong, but the sides would be something like room reverb?

Mark Moschino

6mo

no not at all the sides would be the parts of your sound that are getting pushed to the left and right of your soundstage, but to be honest this might be too advanced for you right now.

start by taking your favorite drum sample and count the pattern out to a metronome then take play/or program that pattern into whatever sequencer/daw you're using.

Water Giver

6mo

i didnt tell him to research electronic music processing i made it clear that its an example of how people transform drums into a more desired outcome lol, which in that example was electronic

most genres use the same methods/tools/programs just in different ways

my example was not nor endorsed him to go out and get that exact plugin or look into that genre - it was an example of a crusher and sampler is a common way people process sounds into what they want

its an example of a "clean/dry" sound being turned into something else

now my mistake is that i either went too broad or too simple/beginner, but at the end ofthe day it was an example how people transform sounds and rhythms into something specific/desired

Sir Swagalot

6mo

this is good to know. i’m approaching sound design on how it’d be placed if i were behind the drum kit essentially so im glad you’re telling me all this

Sir Swagalot

6mo

this is good to know. i’m approaching sound design on how it’d be placed if i were behind the drum kit essentially so im glad you’re telling me all this

Mark Moschino

6mo

also go ahead and tag me in whatever, i'm happy to help

Sir Swagalot

6mo

ik it’s based on the Funky Drummer sample, but it’s got a more synesthesized feel to it

Sir Swagalot

6mo

still can’t believe this came out in the 90s

Mark Moschino

6mo

i'm salty because a lot of "producers" on here give advice to people and send them down these rabbit holes that turn out to really only be about how smart and good those posters are at producing (and usually they f***ing suck at it), instead of actually trying to help the person.

Sorry if I mistook you for being that. I'm just tired of reading a lot of blatantly wrong s***.

CGI Dog

6mo

never heard that duran duran song before

Water Giver

6mo

what i said wasnt wrong tho lol (of ways to transform sounds) nor did i send him down a rabbithole, again youre making extremes out of nothing when i clearly said since the start "here's an example" of using common tools to achieve a desired sound in another genre, that most genre's also use that isnt live recordings related

yeah, i think you jumped the gun based on a pre made assumption

my assumption was op talking from either a blank slate of his own pattern in a daw or mpc - Hence, again, "i assume you mean the vibe, feel and tone", and why i breifly mentioned how drum machines and the like already have these things built in and tuned to their own way and quirks and sound different from one another with their own characteristics - and why your own base drums wont sound like that right away

what i said is not wrong, its just broad and not a direct step answer which i already admitted lol

my whole point was mainly about pointing op towards the tools

Water Giver

6mo

what i said wasnt wrong tho lol (of ways to transform sounds) nor did i send him down a rabbithole, again youre making extremes out of nothing when i clearly said since the start "here's an example" of using common tools to achieve a desired sound in another genre, that most genre's also use that isnt live recordings related

yeah, i think you jumped the gun based on a pre made assumption

my assumption was op talking from either a blank slate of his own pattern in a daw or mpc - Hence, again, "i assume you mean the vibe, feel and tone", and why i breifly mentioned how drum machines and the like already have these things built in and tuned to their own way and quirks and sound different from one another with their own characteristics - and why your own base drums wont sound like that right away

what i said is not wrong, its just broad and not a direct step answer which i already admitted lol

my whole point was mainly about pointing op towards the tools

Sir Swagalot

6mo

damn that’s like a grocery store staple where i am

Poolboy Q

6mo

feel like I’ve heard this one too

Mark Moschino

6mo

nah i feel like what you said was wrong and off topic despite all of this

Mark Moschino

6mo

you gave information that was too broad to be useful and didn’t explain it well either