Keeping it a thousand, most of life is totally thankless and you get zero feedback from what you do more often than not. If you wouldn't do music for free because you get something out of the act itself, it's gonna be real hard to put in the effort required to be successful at it.

I write because I'm not sure what I would do otherwise. Been that way since I was a kid.

nah sorry you feel that way

Well said

Yea I really want to produce but I can't keep s*** simple. I like to tweak and customize every single last little thing and by the time I end up done with one thing I completely forgot how I even wanted the s*** to sound.

I'm a tinkerer. Love f***ing with s*** and end up getting lost in that action versus focusing on creating a coherent beat.

So I opted for my other passion which is designing/branding/whatever with my clothing line. I like it more because I can be more creative but I would really like to produce music as well. Not going to lie.

i have a friend who's an amazing like all around artist, literally can play multiple instruments, sing amazingly, produce, and is an overall genius with the creativity, but feels like totally confused on how to actually progress or even start a music career. they had a brief moment of buzz around the pandemic on soundcloud but that fizzled out, mostly because soundcloud kinda dead. my nigga wanted or wants to be the next frank ocean and honestly could be even better but has basically convinced themselves that it's impossible, that the pathways that previously existed don't exist anymore, etc. they think they should move to NYC even though they don't want to because they like where they live, and isn't even convinced that's the way forward. overall they just not doing well and there's no clear path forward for them, and i get it.

i try to motivate them but it's hard, and at the same time i actually share a lot of their opinions. like what tf is a real artist supposed to do to make a dent these days? can't just move to LA and start ghostwriting or something anymore, then joining a sick LA based collective and ride they wave too lol. things aint like they used to be. seems like all you can really do is throw s*** out onto the internet and hope for the best. it's just totally f***ing unclear for artists on how to proceed other than tiktok virality.

he finna enter a PHP or IOP type thing because his mental health's been suffering massively with it.idk how to help him and i wish i did, especially because i actually truly believe in his potential and think he's a truly transgressive artist. if anyone here that knows about the music industry have any advice i can pass along to my good friend that would be great.

had to vent about this even if i can't get anyone's help

age don't matter, 30 is still young lmfao. first thing yall gotta do is stop thinking yall are old

that your album in your bio?

No but i do think "music" is a good placeholder for "your dreams" and I might need a moment

If your friend is truly as good as you say he def has more options than just making content online, cause that is hell i know from my own experience as a music producer.

Its building s*** in real life and by that it mean performing whatever songs they have locally, trying to find likeminded artists, collaborating with them and slowly but surely building a fanbase irl. Collaborating with others and performing locally is the best way to go about it if you are talented enough to do all of those things. Once they build a little fanbase it will make s*** way easier on the internet too

Now that also depends on where they are located and yeah, if the local scene sucks, like you suggested, moving to a place with more opportunities and building s*** there is the only other option

the only actual dream I had w music is kind of f***ed up

sometimes it’s cool to think of having Alzheimer’s so I can just hear my music as a first listener and have people tell me I made it

Bury me with my MPC.

So no.

Nice crib or tent under bridge I will be doing this s***. It’s an art form first not a career.

Anyone can go to work and paint some s*** at the end of the day if they really REALLY love this s***. And be successful.

Don’t ever give up I could never even fathom thinking of giving up

That’s like giving up sleep…

This is art bro not a damn bachelors degree there is always time to make music if you actually love it.

Bojack avy

facts this s*** self expression for me first before anything

i make music out of necessity, because if i dont i'll go crazy

the process >>>

Nope. I’ve been making music for a while now. And I was doing it long before I had any thoughts “maybe I’m good enough to make money from this”.
Sure, I could give up on making a successful career out of this. But I just live the act of making music in general. I could still be in the corporate/job race and still be making music purely as a hobby.

I will say though, for people who have bigger aspirations for their music you have to be at least somewhat delusional to succeed. Because there will be constant times you’ll just want to give up, someone tells you it’s a waste of time, etc. I’m sure every successful artist has dealt with that. And they’ll mostly be right statistically , especially if you’re purely in it for money or star aspirations. But you just need enough personal confidence, ego, and delusion to keep moving forward regardless.

Why not just try and play shows in their local area at small events etc. or if they are multi instrumental try and get in with a band that are already doing that.

Put the pain in and s*** will work. Lot of times mfs think like this just because of others opinions.

I have bare minimum support from my city. Extreme support everywhere else GLOBALLY in small numbers but it’s super intimate because they see how serious I take my craft. The local s***, atleast in my city, is the last place that will catch on.

I’m from Arizona… so yeah s*** is wack. It’d a reason s*** don’t pop here. But it’s critical to not hate your city or take it personal. Honestly I just use it as fuel to s*** on everyone here. With love.

You literally, f***ing actually not memefully have to LOCK IN.

F*** Tik tok and every f***ing thing else like die for this s***…. The world is demanding change anyways

now is the time. I hope you keep on going.

people still think that "industry rule = 30 is old" s*** is law.

S*** never existed. and urban audiences only audience that be really hampering about it because of niggas fear of mortality

I'm doing as a hobby so no point in stopping even though I take breaks sometimes. But if you doing thinking about getting into the industry yeah that feel of giving up might be real

Yes I did a year ago. Just lost my creative spark. I get it back occasionally but my mind has just moved onto other things these days

I did for a bit but I’ve gotten back into it over the last year. The issue is if you expect anything from music, you’re expecting to much from music. You gotta do it because you either enjoy the process of creating or the practicing and performance.
As much as the internet makes you think that you gotta be chasing trends or chasing visibility, the second you start thinking about other people you lose the plot

🎯

Once you realize no one actually can stop you from doing s*** from another screen you be more confident in your thoughts, actions, and purpose.

Do not let this f***ing internet s*** desecrate mankind’s most beloved artform any longer. I’m devoted to fix this s*** and flip the industry even if I don’t make a dent… not gonna sit and watch this s*** die

With that purpose and realization, past few months I’ve been creating at a level more than ever.

yes

I feel for these youngins man

I wouldn’t be able to find passion in this s*** at all the way it’s being run now…

All because of likes and follows and meaningless bullshit. Deleting s***. Worried bout posting s***. It’s literally so p**** when you think about it. You are allowed to be an individual. It’s not illegal to express yourself…

STOMP ON BUSINESS.

BEEN STANDING TOO LONG.

Im always debating quittin rapping but ill always b a prod