The cycle was broken by streaming
There is no more mixtape scene that birthed our generation’s legends
How will the next generation do it without the mixtape scene?
What’s the difference in your mind between mixtapes on DatPiff.com and streaming on Spotify / AM?
This is it honestly. I would even extend this to 2018, as that year produced decent albums too. But we were SPOILED in the middle of the last decade with great body of works. It’s more bad projects than good nowadays. Thug, Future, Travis, Uzi we’re even making amazing projects then. Like someone here said, streaming really f***ed up everything. The labels capitalize off of the numbers so younger artists aren’t trying to take the time to work on perfecting their craft and stand out. It’s just fast food now. I don’t think it has anything to do with us getting older
Glad to hear that someone with me, quite interesting to think about. I’ve seen people claim it’s just a cycle and eventually a group of new great artists coming in just like in previous eras. Here’s the thing though, with the induction of streaming, it could potentially not let that happen and continue to give these s***ty rappers a platform.
Streaming may have broken the cycle and taken us into new world of consuming music
rap changed, probably not for the better overall but there’s still great music being made
I was under the impression that both the artistry and the “fast food” rap as you put it could coexist.
I’ve also realized that one is basically washing out the other. Every other project regardless of quality is doing numbers and eventually the genre will begin to fall off
Just know that artistry will still continue just maybe not at the top of the charts
Quality>quantity.
I'd rather my fav artist to focus and make a concise album over 3-4 years that to give me a tape every 6 months.
OP do you notice how these new rappers be dropping.
An album cycle every 4months,and when people get bored of it,they stop buying so the artists flop.
Then you got them saying oh that was my mixtape not my album lol.
People on here are clowning Kendrick Joey Cole cause they take their time,and then come and be mad that fast food music takes over lol
In a way yes but I think the evolution is beautiful because some rappers uphold tradition to the highest degree and some rappers innovating and some mix both which is some of the best s*** coming out
The death of rap blogs and forums due to streaming/twitter has pretty much wrecked rap discussion so it's not surprising that the music has deteriorated too
Also while it's true to an extent that people always say rap is dying, back in 2013-15 it was actually widely thought that ringtone rap from 2006ish - 2010 was a terrible era and that things had improved due to the spread of mixtapes on the internet and rap becoming more diverse. Also many people hated 'backpack rap' and thought that underground rap was far better than it had been in the 2000s
i don't know about the wider 'trajectory of hip-hop' but i do definitely feel that the last 5 years has paled in comparison to the 5 years before that in terms of quality albums.
Old heads f***ed up when they over generalized everything back in 2016. They were speaking of lil uzi, 21 savage and lil pump as if they were the exact same artist. Like they couldnt see the difference in they lane
‘Mumble rap’ was not the problem. Vulturing and a lack of orginality was. Hiphop becoming too mainstream
What’s the difference in your mind between mixtapes on DatPiff.com and streaming on Spotify / AM?
mixtapes now are much more commercialized since money can be made off them, since they are monetized artists approach them with a different mindset
the traditional mixtapes I grew up were literally b sides and remixes over popular beats at the time, it was a much more organic and free spirited vibe
rappers don't really be trying to get the best verse over the hottest beats of the moment anymore and that's just one example of the lost of competition in the game
Rap fell off hard
2014 was the beginning of this
No coincidence that streaming started at this time
mixtapes now are much more commercialized since money can be made off them, since they are monetized artists approach them with a different mindset
the traditional mixtapes I grew up were literally b sides and remixes over popular beats at the time, it was a much more organic and free spirited vibe
rappers don't really be trying to get the best verse over the hottest beats of the moment anymore and that's just one example of the lost of competition in the game
I also miss everyone rapping over the popular beats of the time (Wayne’s my fav rapper if that tells you anything). I attribute that to legal reasons / the rise of hip hop in the mainstream more than streaming. Once Mac Miller successfully got sued by Lord Finesse for a sample off of his free mixtape, that’s when artists stopped rapping over beats as they didn’t want to take the legal risk.
I also miss everyone rapping over the popular beats of the time (Wayne’s my fav rapper if that tells you anything). I attribute that to legal reasons / the rise of hip hop in the mainstream more than streaming. Once Mac Miller successfully got sued by Lord Finesse for a sample off of his free mixtape, that’s when artists stopped rapping over beats as they didn’t want to take the legal risk.
Good points.
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Old heads f***ed up when they over generalized everything back in 2016. They were speaking of lil uzi, 21 savage and lil pump as if they were the exact same artist. Like they couldnt see the difference in they lane
‘Mumble rap’ was not the problem. Vulturing and a lack of orginality was. Hiphop becoming too mainstream