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  • Jul 20, 2022
    youngtubesteak2

    yeah

  • Jul 20, 2022
    Mesaih

    Musicians are people that make music

    Without a rapper/singer the song would literally just be the instrumental

    Your voice is an instrument

  • Jul 20, 2022
    user
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    Without rappers/singers the instrumental would still be…music?

    Without the instrumental the “song” would be spoken word

    Which makes the producers the musicians, they make the music

    Just my opinion though. I think the term y’all are looking for is vocalist or recording artist

    Spoken word might be very similar to rapping but rapping relies on rhythm way more and control over your voice

    Singing without an instrumental is still music

  • Jul 20, 2022
    user

    Without rappers/singers the instrumental would still be…music?

    Without the instrumental the “song” would be spoken word

    Which makes the producers the musicians, they make the music

    Just my opinion though. I think the term y’all are looking for is vocalist or recording artist

    Spoken word is still a form of music

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    user

    Without rappers/singers the instrumental would still be…music?

    Without the instrumental the “song” would be spoken word

    Which makes the producers the musicians, they make the music

    Just my opinion though. I think the term y’all are looking for is vocalist or recording artist

    Vocalist -> musician

    In the same way that

    Basketball player -> athlete

    Same idea

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    But I get you tho that post was kinda goofy lol

    “Literally instrumentals” so music…lmao

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    People who ask questions like this are so f***ing annoying

  • Jul 20, 2022

    rappers play language. rappers can do a lot

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Vocalist -> musician

    In the same way that

    Basketball player -> athlete

    Same idea

    Damn folks called me crazy for saying some ppl think like this

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    JPEGMAFIA

    People who ask questions like this are so f***ing annoying

    I asked the question because I want too. If you have a problem get ya goofy ass outta the thread.

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    HURRY UP THOM

    But I get you tho that post was kinda goofy lol

    “Literally instrumentals” so music…lmao

    It is music but a song would feel incomplete without the vocals is what i was trying to say

    It's an essential part of most forms of music

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    HURRY UP THOM

    Damn folks called me crazy for saying some ppl think like this

    Wym

  • Jul 20, 2022
    Mesaih

    It is music but a song would feel incomplete without the vocals is what i was trying to say

    It's an essential part of most forms of music

    Good instrumentals don’t feel like that but that’s a topic for another thread

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Wym

    I either made a thread or made a post on here saying some people don’t think you’re considered an athlete if you only play one sport

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    Mesaih

    It is music but a song would feel incomplete without the vocals is what i was trying to say

    It's an essential part of most forms of music

    Beethoven/Classical? Jazz?

    Lol I get the racial undertones that make people want to defend rappers as musicians and it is kinda splitting hairs but music without vocals is still…music. People typically don’t treat acapella works the same

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    DynamiteCrystal

    Opinions. Mofos be hating.

    now i do think that if we made a sliding scale among all genres, most rappers that aren't skilled on an instrument or make beats would probably be less proficient at songwriting and song structure than any other genres because a rapper has less to learn. you can achieve a lot in rap without knowing very much about the skill / theory of what makes a song "work". RHCP would wash most rappers in a songwriting competition. but to balance that out you have rappers like Drake, Lil Uzi Vert, Post Malone, NBA Youngboy (to an extent), Jaden Smith, Juice WRLD, and countless more who blend pop song structure and music theory with the rhythmic skill of a top tier rapper and become some of the most interesting musicians in the world by making songs that fit into hybrid sub spaces not just in the preference of one type of listener

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    HURRY UP THOM

    I either made a thread or made a post on here saying some people don’t think you’re considered an athlete if you only play one sport

    Lmao who tf thinks that

    Trying to say an NBA player isn’t an athlete because he only plays one sport is idiotic

  • Jul 20, 2022
    Hedobevibindoe

    Smells caccy itt

    WELL THEY WOULD BE, IF THEY ACTUALLY MADE THE MUSIC.

    INSTEAD WHAT WE HAVE ARE A BUNCH OF

    I can hear Shapiro in my head and it's disgusting

  • Jul 20, 2022
    shaleirose

    Lmao who tf thinks that

    Trying to say an NBA player isn’t an athlete because he only plays one sport is idiotic

    Idk man but I’ve heard it a lot

  • Jul 20, 2022
    user

    What instrument do they play

    Rappers are rappers and that’s okay

    You can’t be serious man lol

  • Jul 20, 2022
    tomorrow volverse

    now i do think that if we made a sliding scale among all genres, most rappers that aren't skilled on an instrument or make beats would probably be less proficient at songwriting and song structure than any other genres because a rapper has less to learn. you can achieve a lot in rap without knowing very much about the skill / theory of what makes a song "work". RHCP would wash most rappers in a songwriting competition. but to balance that out you have rappers like Drake, Lil Uzi Vert, Post Malone, NBA Youngboy (to an extent), Jaden Smith, Juice WRLD, and countless more who blend pop song structure and music theory with the rhythmic skill of a top tier rapper and become some of the most interesting musicians in the world by making songs that fit into hybrid sub spaces not just in the preference of one type of listener

    Yep

    It does get interesting though because I wonder what music Gucci Mane would have lended his vocals too if he was born in the 40’s-50’s lmao.
    There’s cadence and skill in the vocal s*** that rappers do, they just also need music as do most vocalists.

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    user

    they’re singers. Singers can be the mfs in your church choir

    Are they musicians ?

  • Jul 20, 2022

    Of course?????

  • Jul 20, 2022
    tomorrow volverse

    now i do think that if we made a sliding scale among all genres, most rappers that aren't skilled on an instrument or make beats would probably be less proficient at songwriting and song structure than any other genres because a rapper has less to learn. you can achieve a lot in rap without knowing very much about the skill / theory of what makes a song "work". RHCP would wash most rappers in a songwriting competition. but to balance that out you have rappers like Drake, Lil Uzi Vert, Post Malone, NBA Youngboy (to an extent), Jaden Smith, Juice WRLD, and countless more who blend pop song structure and music theory with the rhythmic skill of a top tier rapper and become some of the most interesting musicians in the world by making songs that fit into hybrid sub spaces not just in the preference of one type of listener

    Yeah the thing about every last one musician you named is a rapper who mixed different genres in their 🎶.

  • Jul 20, 2022

    Yes, if you make music you’re a musician

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