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  • Jun 8, 2022

    sfchronicle.com/election/article/Chesa-Boudin-ousted-as-San-Francisco-District-17226641.php

    San Francisco voters overwhelmingly voted to remove District Attorney Chesa Boudin from office on Tuesday, favoring a recall effort that argued his progressive reforms were too lenient and made the city less safe.

    Boudin trailed by about 20 percentage points Tuesday evening, according to the latest figures from city elections officials. Around 60% of San Franciscans who cast ballots voted to recall him.

    Boudin will be removed from office 10 days after the Board of Supervisors formally accepts the election results. The city’s more moderate mayor, London Breed, will choose his immediate replacement, and voters will elect a new district attorney in November.

    The result comes as little surprise to residents following numerous polls, almost all of which predicted a decisive defeat for Boudin.

    The results capped off a furious debate over crime and criminal justice in San Francisco, with the two sides fighting over Boudin’s approach to incarceration and rehabilitation and his leadership. As his supporters lauded his efforts to find alternatives to jails and prisons — which he said had failed the public for decades — his detractors slammed him as too permissive.

    Boudin will depart the office after serving two and a half years of his four-year term.

    Supporters of recalling Boudin erupted in cheers and chants of “Recall Chesa” as they toasted drinks after first results showed Boudin’s ouster. People embraced and said they were going to cry, overcome with emotion.

    Boudin arrived at his watch party after the measure had already been called, making his entrance to chants of “Chesa!”

    “This is a movement not a moment,” he said, standing on top of a keg to be seen and heard.

    “Our cause is righteous,” he said. “And we have already won! And we have already won! We are part of a national movement that understands we can never incarcerate our way out of poverty.”

    Recall campaign chair Mary Jung, who described herself as a “lifelong Democrat,” said she started the campaign 14 months ago because she believed San Francisco was in trouble, needed change and would support a “Democratic-led campaign for a safer San Francisco.”

    “San Franciscans from every neighborhood and background sent a clear message today,” she said. “Voters said loud and clear that they want a district attorney who prioritizes public safety for every community.”

    Two women whose names have arisen as potential replacements were at the recall party. Brooke Jenkins, a former prosecutor who resigned from Boudin’s office and became a campaign spokesperson demurred when asked whether she would put her name forward or run. “My goal was to help this campaign and I’m content,” Jenkins said.


    What do we think KTT2 politics sxn bros? Is this the first shot in the Anti-Woke Thermidor? Or is this an isolated incident of one Soros DA dealing with the particularities of one specific city who bit off more than he could chew (not a joke about his teeth)?

  • Jun 8, 2022

    He’s a communist?

  • balding communist

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    SF saw decreased violent crime, property crime, theft, and homelessness rates under this DA this is proof of the media being able to construct any narrative they want

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    Two women whose names have arisen as potential replacements were at the recall party. Brooke Jenkins, a former prosecutor who resigned from Boudin’s office and became a campaign spokesperson demurred when asked whether she would put her name forward or run. “My goal was to help this campaign and I’m content,” Jenkins said.

    Brooke Jenkins, a former prosecutor
    Look who's trying to come back into the forefront lol

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    daisycutterflowz

    SF saw decreased violent crime, property crime, theft, and homelessness rates under this DA this is proof of the media being able to construct any narrative they want

    this is debatable in any major city in the US. if you reclassify what constitutes as a crime or violation, then you obviously will see a distinct fall in "crime". crime report statistics are ultimately only based on tracked reports - tracked reports aren't just number of calls, it's essentially based on what makes it past the initial report process. Most of these numbers are ultimately tallied up by DA; if the DA decides x amount of crimes are not really crimes, then those statistics are shifted to subtract the crime report from the statistic. This is how you end up with supposed record lows despite objective reporting on higher rates vs baseline data.

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    daisycutterflowz

    SF saw decreased violent crime, property crime, theft, and homelessness rates under this DA this is proof of the media being able to construct any narrative they want

    Reminds me of the narrative around immigration in the UK. Migration to the UK was the same after brexit as before, but concern about it decreased after. Why? The right wing press got what they wanted so they stopped fearmongering about it...

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    krishna bound

    this is debatable in any major city in the US. if you reclassify what constitutes as a crime or violation, then you obviously will see a distinct fall in "crime". crime report statistics are ultimately only based on tracked reports - tracked reports aren't just number of calls, it's essentially based on what makes it past the initial report process. Most of these numbers are ultimately tallied up by DA; if the DA decides x amount of crimes are not really crimes, then those statistics are shifted to subtract the crime report from the statistic. This is how you end up with supposed record lows despite objective reporting on higher rates vs baseline data.

    sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-crime-Chesa-Boudin-London-Breed-16751930.php

    This thing basically said petty crime increased in general (which involved the entire country being in a financial rut), but violent crimes never went up.

    Basically someone drummed up a good marketing campaign to convince the public to remove him lol.

  • raged

    https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-crime-Chesa-Boudin-London-Breed-16751930.php

    This thing basically said petty crime increased in general (which involved the entire country being in a financial rut), but violent crimes never went up.

    Basically someone drummed up a good marketing campaign to convince the public to remove him lol.

    a few things;
    firstly, my point is that if you reclassify violent crime as non-violent or decrease what can/can't be prosecuted, then it changes the rate of crime by contrast. like for example if you decriminalize d****, of course you have no d*** offenses (not debating morality of this, just saying statistically). if you change what authorities can/can't arrest someone for, you're going to get a difference in charges too. this is further differentiated by prosecution; if a gun charge gets up to the DA then the charge is dropped, that charge is no longer on the books - it's not going to be reported. Take DA Krasner in Philly - gun ARRESTS on a record high, but gun CONVICTIONS are essentially a record low; this is paired with SHOOTINGS being at an elevated rate, but most suspects not getting caught. This means you get a disparity in data; on paper there's few gun convictions, so how could there be an increase in gun crime?

    also you're misreading the article, the article contradicts itself multiple times. of coursec rimes reported are lower if you can't report anything. further information in the article shows this. it says crime in 2020 is down vs 2019. This is REPORTS. it immediatedly then says this:

    Many property crimes in the city go unreported, making it difficult to gauge the level of decline. For retail theft specifically — classified as larceny theft in the city data, a category that typically makes up more than half of the city's total reported incidents — many stores have said it is not worth reporting thefts to police.

    The data then shows immediatedly an increase in burglaries and motor vehicle thefts, and then says the rate of property crime in SF is above average ("San Francisco typically has similar rates of violent crime, but higher rates of property crime. ").

    After that the article tries to say homicides have increased but this isn't notable because it has everywhere else. It says a 38% increase in homicides and a 47% increase in burglaries - but this is okay because it's happenign elsewhere too. Like...of course it is...the DAs in these cities HAVE THE SAME POLICIES - NYC, Philly, and Minneapolis being the best examples.

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    as a disclaimer i'm not pro cop i'm just anti-bad policy

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    silicon valley was not very happy about this guy that’s for damn sure

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    necromancer

    silicon valley was not very happy about this guy that’s for damn sure

    if the warriors win the finals on the heels of this recall, the silicon valley "bros" who became dubs fans in 2015 are going to have their greatest month ever

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    They're framing it as him making the city "unsafe" but if you look at the data violent crime hasn't been this low since the 80s and it's actually decreased since 2019. Sacramento has a tough on crime DA and its murder rate actually increased. The only that's up is property crime, but what do you expect in one of the most unequal city in California during COVID?

    He pissed off real estate, cops, and the gig economy otherwise you wouldn't see this.

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    krishna bound

    as a disclaimer i'm not pro cop i'm just anti-bad policy

    You’re anti-bald policy

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    M a r b l e

    You’re anti-bald policy

    exactly

  • Jun 8, 2022

    He just had a real knack for bad optics moments

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    gabapentin

    if the warriors win the finals on the heels of this recall, the silicon valley "bros" who became dubs fans in 2015 are going to have their greatest month ever

    basically the libs + republicans (mainly with ties to the tech space and other corporate interests) united against this progressive D.A

    tbf I don’t like D.As because they are incentivized to lock people up and they get their paycheck from the same place the police do, but this guy was more laid back ig and the establishment wants a tough on crime narrative instead of mitigating social factors that lead to crime (which you can see a lot of in SF/the bay area), and it would draw attention to inequality, which is bad for business

    peter thiel and curtis yarvin are frotting each other in celebration

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    shame that no one ever bothered to read this book, now that he's going to be irrelevant as a public figure we'll never find out if chesa was actually a communist or just a pinko

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    necromancer

    basically the libs + republicans (mainly with ties to the tech space and other corporate interests) united against this progressive D.A

    tbf I don’t like D.As because they are incentivized to lock people up and they get their paycheck from the same place the police do, but this guy was more laid back ig and the establishment wants a tough on crime narrative instead of mitigating social factors that lead to crime (which you can see a lot of in SF/the bay area), and it would draw attention to inequality, which is bad for business

    peter thiel and curtis yarvin are frotting each other in celebration

    lmfao at thiel + yarvin frotting

    yarvin definitely is happy, the soft-handed approach to homelessness of the american left-liberal is one of the things he despises the most

  • Jun 8, 2022
    raged

    https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-crime-Chesa-Boudin-London-Breed-16751930.php

    This thing basically said petty crime increased in general (which involved the entire country being in a financial rut), but violent crimes never went up.

    Basically someone drummed up a good marketing campaign to convince the public to remove him lol.

    honestly people just want the people in charge of maintaining order to at least pretend that they think petty crime is undesirable

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    the reds

    They're framing it as him making the city "unsafe" but if you look at the data violent crime hasn't been this low since the 80s and it's actually decreased since 2019. Sacramento has a tough on crime DA and its murder rate actually increased. The only that's up is property crime, but what do you expect in one of the most unequal city in California during COVID?

    He pissed off real estate, cops, and the gig economy otherwise you wouldn't see this.

    boudin didn't take office until 2020 and the general decline in crime being cited elsewhere starts before his actual tenure began. from his tenure beginning, crime clearly ticks up during his term.. It's just that this is being disregarded since crime ticked up elsewhere too - not a great comparison however when the crime tick is in major cities adopting similar policies. That said, there are also aspects clearly not his fault - i.e. if CA adopts bad policies on a state-level and he simply has to regulate based on that, it's not his fault - however if he agrees with those policies too then that changes it

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    gabapentin

    shame that no one ever bothered to read this book, now that he's going to be irrelevant as a public figure we'll never find out if chesa was actually a communist or just a pinko

    crazy how this guy became a DA for the sole purpose of getting political clout to spend on getting his dad out of prison

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    krishna bound

    crazy how this guy became a DA for the sole purpose of getting political clout to spend on getting his dad out of prison

    Bill Ayers was playing the long game, raising Chesa and teaching him how to read so that he could get David Gilbert out of jail some day at the same time he was helping groom Barack for the big chair

  • gabapentin

    Bill Ayers was playing the long game, raising Chesa and teaching him how to read so that he could get David Gilbert out of jail some day at the same time he was helping groom Barack for the big chair

    just found out Soros financially supported Kosovo's independence so guess i'm a Serbian nationalist now