Synopsis

4y

I made a thread similar to this on Ktt 1, but that was 9 years ago. It’s time to rehash it. The premise is simple. Jay Electronica is the best rapper of all time, and all of the arguments otherwise are simply too weak to consider. Previously, it was the idea that he didn’t have enough songs, which was as complete nonsense then as it is now. He probably has close to 150 unique songs and feature verses, more than enough to make a full judgment. The other primary argument was that he didn’t have an album. Well now he arguably has 2, despite one being an unfinished leak, so that argument is out the window.

What makes him the best is simple. All you need to do is listen to the song knights of the roundtable, and hear what Hov is saying on the vocal sample. It’s all about human emotions. There is no rapper past or present that has so deftly been able to speak to the shared emotional experience of humans. Love, pain, loss, anxiety, wanting to be accepted etc., are feelings that we can all relate to in some form or another, and Jay Elect encapsulates them better than anyone. He gets a bad rep from some trolls as a lyrical/miracle/spiritual rapper, but this has never been true. His rhyme schemes, delivery, and words are often simple, to the point and rely much more on appealing to emotion than they do to confusing the listener or making them want to look some s*** up on rapgenius.

However, that’s not to say that that is the extent of his skill as a rapper. On a bar for bar basis, his wordplay, storytelling, metaphors/similies and whatever other lyrical device you might choose are, at his peak compared to the peak of other rappers, superior.

If you aren’t familiar with his music at this point and are itching to write this off as nonsense, I can show you exactly what songs and verses to check out in order to change your mind. If you have listened to his music and don’t agree, I need to hear your argument against it show I can show you why you’re wrong

weneedabigman

4y

after hearing act 2 Im certain he gotta be top 10, but I dont see how he is above hov for example lyrically. he’d have to keep it up for another 10-15 years

Synopsis

4y

Immortal technique would never come up with better in tune and they aren't even close to being similar rappers lmao. thats the biggest joke in the thread by far.

EVOLUTION

4y

you must listen to imperial technique

gnarlynasty

4y

AWT barely his album and Act II is out in an unfinished state,both great works of art btw. This thread should’ve been about Ghostface Killah. He’s one of the few rappers who actually cares about the art of rapping and could give two s***s about rap being respected as fine art.

EVOLUTION

4y

Who on his level then???

you ain’t heard demons by Wayne????

you tripping

saph

4y

Andre 3000 exists

Synopsis

4y

Hov is great lyrically, or once was, but when it comes to them at their best, Jay E is just better.

necromancer

4y

i mean jay z would probably say himself that jay e is a GOAT

EVOLUTION

4y

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Nas

Biggie

Wayne

Drake

Kendrick

Blu

Hov

Lupe

Push

Cole

3000

Ye

Pac

Sweatshirts

shut the f*** up

Synopsis

4y

Immortal technique would never come up with better in tune and they aren't even close to being similar rappers lmao. thats the biggest joke in the thread by far.

weneedabigman

4y

if u went song for song I could see this being true

But I just think of so many verses when hov comes to mind. i aint mad at it though

Marcus is Dust

4y

You
Must
Not
Know
KA, the actual greatest lyricist in the genre

kenneth branagh

4y

the biggest joke is APITDTA being on top of rap's pyramid with such miracle bars as

"Teardrops on my face, it's like teardrops become waterfalls by the time they reach my laces
My eyelids is like levees but my tear ducts is like glaciers"

Youtube comment tier, and i like the song. youre a fan , and thats okay , but Jay E is really a garden variety lyricist and doesnt stand head and shoulders above acts like Wayne or 3000

Synopsis

4y

demons is not better in tune level or anywhere near it. let's just be real.

EVOLUTION

4y

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Nas

Biggie

Wayne

Drake

Kendrick

Blu

Hov

Lupe

Push

Cole

3000

Ye

Pac

Sweatshirts

shut the f*** up