frenchpress ❇️Oct 10, 2020
SynopsisI made a thread similar to this on Ktt 1, but that was 9 years ago. It’s time to rehash it. The premise is simple. Jay Electronica is the best rapper of all time, and all of the arguments otherwise are simply too weak to consider. Previously, it was the idea that he didn’t have enough songs, which was as complete nonsense then as it is now. He probably has close to 150 unique songs and feature verses, more than enough to make a full judgment. The other primary argument was that he didn’t have an album. Well now he arguably has 2, despite one being an unfinished leak, so that argument is out the window.
What makes him the best is simple. All you need to do is listen to the song knights of the roundtable, and hear what Hov is saying on the vocal sample. It’s all about human emotions. There is no rapper past or present that has so deftly been able to speak to the shared emotional experience of humans. Love, pain, loss, anxiety, wanting to be accepted etc., are feelings that we can all relate to in some form or another, and Jay Elect encapsulates them better than anyone. He gets a bad rep from some trolls as a lyrical/miracle/spiritual rapper, but this has never been true. His rhyme schemes, delivery, and words are often simple, to the point and rely much more on appealing to emotion than they do to confusing the listener or making them want to look some s*** up on rapgenius.
However, that’s not to say that that is the extent of his skill as a rapper. On a bar for bar basis, his wordplay, storytelling, metaphors/similies and whatever other lyrical device you might choose are, at his peak compared to the peak of other rappers, superior.
If you aren’t familiar with his music at this point and are itching to write this off as nonsense, I can show you exactly what songs and verses to check out in order to change your mind. If you have listened to his music and don’t agree, I need to hear your argument against it show I can show you why you’re wrong
- OPOct 10, 2020·1 reply
Slingshotafter hearing act 2 Im certain he gotta be top 10, but I dont see how he is above hov for example lyrically. he’d have to keep it up for another 10-15 years
Hov is great lyrically, or once was, but when it comes to them at their best, Jay E is just better.
Oct 10, 2020
A waaaaaay better writer with a flawless discog
Oct 10, 2020·1 replySynopsisImmortal technique would never come up with better in tune and they aren't even close to being similar rappers lmao. thats the biggest joke in the thread by far.
Who on his level then???
you ain’t heard demons by Wayne????
you tripping
Oct 10, 2020KING OF KINGSyou must listen to imperial technique
LOL
- OPOct 10, 2020·1 reply
gnarlynastyAWT barely his album and Act II is out in an unfinished state,both great works of art btw. This thread should’ve been about Ghostface Killah. He’s one of the few rappers who actually cares about the art of rapping and could give two s***s about rap being respected as fine art.
ghost is top 10, but nah he's not on Jay E's level. the "official" thing is a weak argument, because youre hearing the songs regardless lol
Oct 10, 2020·1 replyAndre 3000 exists
- OPOct 10, 2020·1 replyKING OF KINGS
Who on his level then???
you ain’t heard demons by Wayne????
you tripping
demons is not better in tune level or anywhere near it. let's just be real.
Oct 10, 2020·1 replyi mean jay z would probably say himself that jay e is a GOAT
- OPOct 10, 2020·1 replysaph
Andre 3000 exists
he's one of the only rappers thats close.
- Oct 10, 2020·1 replySynopsis
Hov is great lyrically, or once was, but when it comes to them at their best, Jay E is just better.
if u went song for song I could see this being true
But I just think of so many verses when hov comes to mind. i aint mad at it though
Oct 10, 2020Wasn’t the best rapper bar for bar on his debut album
- OPOct 10, 2020necromancer
i mean jay z would probably say himself that jay e is a GOAT
Jay-Z, Mos and many others actually.
Oct 10, 2020·1 replyKING OF KINGS· editedNas
Biggie
Wayne
Drake
Kendrick
Blu
Hov
Lupe
Push
Cole
3000
Ye
Pac
Sweatshirts
shut the f*** up
bro said Kanye 😹
Oct 10, 2020·1 replySynopsisImmortal technique would never come up with better in tune and they aren't even close to being similar rappers lmao. thats the biggest joke in the thread by far.
the biggest joke is APITDTA being on top of rap's pyramid with such miracle bars as
"Teardrops on my face, it's like teardrops become waterfalls by the time they reach my laces
My eyelids is like levees but my tear ducts is like glaciers"Youtube comment tier, and i like the song. youre a fan , and thats okay , but Jay E is really a garden variety lyricist and doesnt stand head and shoulders above acts like Wayne or 3000
Oct 10, 2020I disagree
- Oct 10, 2020
He’s f***in boring
- OPOct 10, 2020·1 replySlingshot
if u went song for song I could see this being true
But I just think of so many verses when hov comes to mind. i aint mad at it though
hov has a ton of classic songs so its a lot easier to reel off verses or whatever while a lot of jay e's stuff is just under the radar and not in the popular rap consciousness, so trying to say "whats his best verses" is more difficult
- Oct 10, 2020
I think in order to be a definite all time great as far as rapping goes(not albums or music)you have to rap like it’s a sport like prime Wayne,Pac or Hov. Dudes like Andre and Ye have the discography and music to hold them down but I guy like Jay E just doesn’t have enough music imo.
- Oct 10, 2020·1 replyMarcus is Dust
You
Must
Not
Know
KA, the actual greatest lyricist in the genre
Fax and you a real one
Oct 10, 2020op not wrong
- OPOct 10, 2020·1 replykenneth branagh
the biggest joke is APITDTA being on top of rap's pyramid with such miracle bars as
"Teardrops on my face, it's like teardrops become waterfalls by the time they reach my laces
My eyelids is like levees but my tear ducts is like glaciers"Youtube comment tier, and i like the song. youre a fan , and thats okay , but Jay E is really a garden variety lyricist and doesnt stand head and shoulders above acts like Wayne or 3000
"I'm suited up in street clothes
Hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes"wow amazing lyrics.
- Oct 10, 2020Synopsis
demons is not better in tune level or anywhere near it. let's just be real.
Give us a list blood
real list
- Oct 10, 2020KING OF KINGS· edited
Nas
Biggie
Wayne
Drake
Kendrick
Blu
Hov
Lupe
Push
Cole
3000
Ye
Pac
Sweatshirts
shut the f*** up
- OPOct 10, 2020·2 replies
"None of my friends speak, we all tryna win
But then again, maybe it's for the best though"wow tough