I feel ya,I just use that cause an unofficial vs official version of a song can be totally different.

And it’s like actually kinda clear. Man has damn near 10 amazing projects and spits the coldest s*** ever.

facts. I think if you really sat down and put they songs side by side I wouldnt be surprised if jay elec verses end up more meaningful and lyrical.

You just gotta look past the monolith that hov created his character into

i think whatever we've heard unofficially is just as good

Wtf is this bro?????

that's hard

showing that taking two lines and writing them down is an exercise in futility when trying to make a claim, because delivering a performance is so much more than written lyrics.

Still rocking with Wayne, but I don't disagree with this argument.

man ktt is terrible

if we talking bar for bar on a lyrical level only, f*** accolades and music releases, on talent only

jay e wins

most ppl don't even really know what constitutes lyricism. i don't think jay-z has too many songs i'd consider profound or basically what im judging this off of, but his wordplay and all that is obvs as good as almost any when he's not bullshitting.

I agree

Sleeping with the enemy, my demons are too intimate
She's sleeping very gently so now they're starting to enter it
And now they're starting to mentor me, geekin' like Brittany
Tweaking my energy, eat and die sympathy
Scream and cry, infamy
Come alive mentally, and love, die physically
My love cry miserably
Hugs getting looser, her tongue tied kissing me
She f***ed thy niggas see now they both iggin' me
But demons got dignity
Demons got memories, I had a lil' revenge in me
So now I'm at sentencing, 'bout to start giggling
And then I start sizzlin'

Not versatile enough
Doesn't have enough swag
Has some corny lyrical miracle bars

If he's your fav that's cool.. but the GOAT is Nas.

i dont see it.

Thank you

like what.

“The hardest grime, is this borrowed time?
My wrist brings much gift, it's cargo rhyme
Resumé say starve yesterday, tomorrow dine
Conveyed the stress with ALS, started lying
Got loose with hands to land with strict guns
Now 4s bite you assault rifles, big drums
I'm paid path, today's math get sums
They form press, catch long stretch for quick runs
Hold a piece till clothed in a golden fleece
Raw pledge as crazy bald heads comb the streets
Fact is, no statement retracted, prone to reach
It's feet first, heat burst, domes are breached
No coming back from that, black, Holmes's deceased
They pissed cause we the s***, heaters rip
Got my own back, chrome mag, I don’t need a clique
Got a queen, learn Halloween: not to treat a trick
Son smart, I see a mark, proceed to dip”

not surprised this guy's op

Also Hov fell off since he became so obsessed with his brand. it's no coincidence he can only spit good verses on songs with Jay E nowadays.

Ka >>>>

We posted them in the thread where you tried to say Act 2 > Illmatic and your excuse was "Jay Elect isn't about lines" or something

No you did not post of any of these so called lyrical miracle bars.

he’s prolly the only rapper that I think could make me have a spiritual experience/epiphany with just his words the more I think about it.

His s*** was meaning a lot to me when I was on my esoteric vibe earlier this year

That verse wasn’t even that hard bro literally

nigga Eminem first album harder than Jay E whole s***