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  • Mar 17
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    chili

    Why do record companies/artists care so much about getting to the top of the Billboard 200? Does the record company or the artist get a bonus or something? It's the only reason I could see why a record company would sell these albums at a loss

    Perception and it helps the artist with contract negotiations like @JPEGMAFIA said

    Big artists are the ones that typically used these methods.

    Record companies don't mind since they already know they're gonna recoup any potential losses (if any) since these kinds of artist are bigger.

  • chili

    Last sentence makes the most sense from the artist's POV, it gives them more leverage

    But for the label? I'm surprised they'd even accept the massive discount thing that Trav did the Utopia vinyl, especially since they pay all of the expenses associated with manufacturing the vinyl copies

    Well the label can say "our artists combined for 20 #1 songs this year out of 52 weeks" to the shareholders or to new artists they want to sign. They can say "we make superstars"

  • Mar 17

    billboard should just be telling us how many streams overall a project got first week

    sure streaming farms probably exist but everything else can be faked too

    constantly changing what counts as a sale is stupid

  • Mar 17
    Silas

    Perception and it helps the artist with contract negotiations like @JPEGMAFIA said

    Big artists are the ones that typically used these methods.

    Record companies don't mind since they already know they're gonna recoup any potential losses (if any) since these kinds of artist are bigger.

  • crakc 💤
    Mar 17
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    JPEGMAFIA

    I think they reached that point already, didn't they just change the rules a year or two ago?

    I think so but these arbitrary minimum prices seem very exploitable
    These rules are aimed at disproportionately fanatic stanbases who'll do things like buy cassettes and cds they'll never listen to in an effort to support their favorite artist's chart domination.

    The Taylor, Nicki and especially K pop stans are so crafty and connected i just see them fixing this game quickly

  • Mar 17
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    This is anti-consumer. If labels want to sell their physical albums at a financial loss, then let them.

  • Mar 17
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    Silas

    Some more billboard changes

    https://twitter.com/HipHopAllDayy/status/1901720788153110539

    Taylor is done

  • crakc 💤
    Mar 17
    TheFader

    This is anti-consumer. If labels want to sell their physical albums at a financial loss, then let them.

    Would basically be allowing the big labels to subsidize chart positions

    Im all for 99 cent vinyl records but is that pro consumer or just chart exploitation

  • TheFader

    This is anti-consumer. If labels want to sell their physical albums at a financial loss, then let them.

    They still can

  • Mar 17
    TheFader

    This is anti-consumer. If labels want to sell their physical albums at a financial loss, then let them.

    Can’t complain about more money for the artist

  • Mar 17
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    this is not an alt

    Taylor is done

    Weeknd somehow outworsened Taylor with the variants with his last record. Bro was selling vinyl variants of his album that only had 1/3 of the total tracklist, and then on week after release had the album with the whole tracklist up for sale

  • crakc

    I think so but these arbitrary minimum prices seem very exploitable
    These rules are aimed at disproportionately fanatic stanbases who'll do things like buy cassettes and cds they'll never listen to in an effort to support their favorite artist's chart domination.

    The Taylor, Nicki and especially K pop stans are so crafty and connected i just see them fixing this game quickly

    Yeah I agree, artists and their stans will figure out the new meta in a year or two and exploit it. But I am glad they are attempting to fix the problem, even if it means nothing ultimately

  • Mar 17
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  • Mar 17
    TheFader

    This is anti-consumer. If labels want to sell their physical albums at a financial loss, then let them.

    they can sell them they're just not gonna count towards billboard i don't see the issue

  • Mar 17
    CutiePieHole

  • Mar 17
    crakc

    I think so but these arbitrary minimum prices seem very exploitable
    These rules are aimed at disproportionately fanatic stanbases who'll do things like buy cassettes and cds they'll never listen to in an effort to support their favorite artist's chart domination.

    The Taylor, Nicki and especially K pop stans are so crafty and connected i just see them fixing this game quickly

    power creep irl

  • ridiculous. f***ing sales nerds ruin everything

  • There ain’t ever going to be a decision that makes everyone happy lol

  • chili

    Weeknd somehow outworsened Taylor with the variants with his last record. Bro was selling vinyl variants of his album that only had 1/3 of the total tracklist, and then on week after release had the album with the whole tracklist up for sale

    Wtfff

    No wonder he sold 500k

  • Mar 17
    Deezed

    these rules are more so aimed at taylor swift tho, they added rules of only 4 editions to an album which is a direct target at her and her 15 versions of an album

    drake selling 15k physicals isnt on there mind

    taylor moved 1.6 MILLION physicals first week last album

    Taylor has never sold a physical album for less than any of the prices in OP lol

  • Mar 17
    Silas

    Some more billboard changes

    https://twitter.com/HipHopAllDayy/status/1901720788153110539

    The first point only applies to d2c digital albums

  • Mar 17
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    And im still gonna see chart twitter pages and KTT members compare numbers between eras(pre and post streaming) without providing any context

    Other day I saw SZA passed Thriller for most weeks on BB charts

    S*** is depressing, pathetic--please forget it

  • Mar 17
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    f*** billboard

  • Any post 2016 numbers should include an * beside them when being compared to pre streaming numbers. It's only fair

  • crakc 💤
    Mar 17
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    GodzillaMinusOne

    And im still gonna see chart twitter pages and KTT members compare numbers between eras(pre and post streaming) without providing any context

    Other day I saw SZA passed Thriller for most weeks on BB charts

    S*** is depressing, pathetic--please forget it

    all of those twitter pages that are like DUA LIPA just surpassed THE BEATLES for bla bla bla are all ran by the labels btw