I definitely agree but when these boys literal father figures are niggas leaned out talking about robbing and s*** ehay do you expect. All the girls like the trappers so all the niggas gon get like the trappers. A lot of this imagery is coming from one source thats glamorizing it.

Im not arguing that it’s just rap, but it’s a factor. Lotta people wanna pretend like it ain’t.

I grew up in the Chicago area watching a lotta these niggas influence young members of my family and they friends into being the same type of niggas in op talking bout

And it ain’t a case of “you were already in a f***ed up environment ” it happens if kids move to better location with better opportunities too

You put niggas in lower income areas with mad d****, guns and little to no resources f*** s*** gonna happen regardless.

Niggas I knew that grew up in the crack era said that they weren’t even listening to rap when they was out doin crazy s***, them niggas was listening to R&B and New Jack swing and s*** lmao

well that’s bc niggas felt obliged to live what they talk about, authenticity is the foundation and it brings in a lot of money

and it’s not specifically white kids but there’s a desire there or in some adjacent area to be part of the culture

largely i agree tho

Other races/ethnic groups are also raised in the hood and poverty, yet aren’t subjected to the same rates of crime and general lack of success. It’s disingenuous to say it’s just/primarily poverty. It’s hood/rap culture being taken too seriously within impoverished black communities.

Imma leave it at this:
We can do better

Crack predates rap music

Red-lining (housing discrimination) has no correlation to rap music, and exited before the onset of rap music and to some degree May exist today

Rap did not cause any of the three issues you captured and shared, they all predate rap music

This hasn't been bold for 30 years. Rap music has always been the go-to scapegoat for black folks. Let's just conveniently ignore all the other s*** that plagues the black community.

I know this.

I'm on your side

you cannot blame all of this on rappers

at the end of the day most rap music is entertainment regardless of accurate the imagery represented is. individuals should be able to distinguish entertainment from reality

this is like saying menace ii society or the wire causes niggas to start trappinh

Role models for me growing up were Patrick Ewing, Ali, my grandfather, s*** even my school principal.

A lot of s*** that plagues impoverished black communities stem from rap culture tho

No side to be on breh

We’re just stating the facts

no it doesnt

it stems from systemic racism which predates rap music

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Yes. Strong women in my family too.

Yes there is

you're arguing with him

the issues I mentioned are the cause of the problems he tried to connect rap to

Yep
Mexicans buying up historically black neighborhoods and doing it better then we ever did
We gotta look at ourselves, what we celebrate in our culture and how we present ourselves

How?

Pimp culture? Pimp-hoe culture? D****?

What did rap cause in our community that didn’t exist before it’s inception?

I feel you. I grew up in Paterson which has gangs and crime galore.

Blacks, Dominicans, Arabs, and Puerto Ricans constantly fighting each other and ourselves in high school over petty street s***.

We didn't even have a prominent rapper before Fetty Wap blew up(Just Blaze was more lowkey). It was just a reflection of the environment, lack of resources, and the local gangs themselves trying to recruit people.

I guess you can say rap deserves some blame but more so as an ingredient that can fuel a problem that already existed. But, rap alone, will just be seen as entertainment and music to those who were raised in better households or environments.

Racial economic inequality, police violence, d*** dealing, single parent households, mass incarceration, etc?

Must be them damn Lil Keed lyrics again

f*** that i’m rewatching the wire rn, s*** got me wanting to flood my streets with dog food galore