yo is this s*** 3hr45 including the intermission or 3hr 45 + 15min intermission = 4hrs ?
i’m gonna raw dog the intermission and just stare at the screen for 15 min
As the director had intended.
yo is this s*** 3hr45 including the intermission or 3hr 45 + 15min intermission = 4hrs ?
Nah 15 min is factored in to runtime
Nah 15 min is factored in to runtime
omg i coulda watched this today then smh
thought i woulda been late to dinner cause i thought the intermission wasn’t included in runtime
bout to watch nickels boys instead tho
I don’t think there’s evidence strong enough throughout the film to say whether it’s pro or anti Zionist at all tbh. I don’t even know if it’s a bigger point being made about Israel. But maybe I’m missing something
the zionism actually doesnt matter except as a metaphor for fascism. the heroin hilariously is a metaphor for liberalism.
italy stays winning somehow
Loved the 70mm screening of this. They gave us posters, a brochure of Laszlo's architecture and had art pieces of his designs set in front of the door. I feel like Laszlo's depiction didn't exactly meet the level at which everything around the film hypes him to be tho.
Movie itself was pretty good wasn't mad at the length. Corbet's directing job was great imo its the writing that was weaker especially the character work. He's in a good spot tho
imo i dont think his s*** is supposed to be good. theres zero shots of people actually enjoying his building. bro built a tomb and stuck a heroin needle on top. brother ugh. whats that brother?
Yeah I loved this.
Wanna dive deeper into the metaphors but at face value there’s so much to appreciate. The acting, cinematography, the epic feeling with the runtime, just all top notch. I do think the second half can feel jarring, but I felt throughly entertained throughout.
Reporting live from the intermission
So far I’m loving this, only part I didn’t like is when Guy first came in hot….his acting was a little shaky and seemed like he was over doing it
Anytime that score kicked in
especially the lead into the intermission, honestly perfect cinema there
The opening scene was so good as well as the opening credits
First part was miles better than the second. There were some really great shots in the first, and the second part felt like it was filmed entirely different. Think the ending was kind of strange too
second part felt mean spirited - the bed scene was so strange. I did like the Italian guy walking through the marble site. Btw was the person speaking at the end supposed to be grown up zsofia and the actress who was zsofia playing her own daughter? Not sure if I misunderstood, but strange choice
imo i dont think his s*** is supposed to be good. theres zero shots of people actually enjoying his building. bro built a tomb and stuck a heroin needle on top. brother ugh. whats that brother?
I felt the same way, like how is that a community center anyone would want to go to
The opening scene was so good as well as the opening credits
First part was miles better than the second. There were some really great shots in the first, and the second part felt like it was filmed entirely different. Think the ending was kind of strange too
second part felt mean spirited - the bed scene was so strange. I did like the Italian guy walking through the marble site. Btw was the person speaking at the end supposed to be grown up zsofia and the actress who was zsofia playing her own daughter? Not sure if I misunderstood, but strange choice
To your question, yes. Even heard someone asking another person that same question as we exited the theater
The opening scene was so good as well as the opening credits
First part was miles better than the second. There were some really great shots in the first, and the second part felt like it was filmed entirely different. Think the ending was kind of strange too
second part felt mean spirited - the bed scene was so strange. I did like the Italian guy walking through the marble site. Btw was the person speaking at the end supposed to be grown up zsofia and the actress who was zsofia playing her own daughter? Not sure if I misunderstood, but strange choice
Yes, to your question about the actress playing the mom and daughter
I was loving this until the ending. They lost me after bro started d\*\*\*ging his wife
I was loving this until the ending. They lost me after bro started d\*\*\*ging his wife
ending seems to be divisive everywhere I look, but the best interpretation I saw was that even in seeking better treatment in Israel, the “home”, he is now left a shell of a man. He’s bound to a wheelchair like his wife, he has no voice, and his work is given a different meaning from his niece to push forward Zionism, even though he himself never entertained the idea that Israel was the end all be all. Even the theme we hear at the beginning with the Statue of Liberty and throughout, it sounds very commercialized in the epilogue. I saw it that his American dream was no longer his. I think had it ended right before the epilogue it would’ve stuck the landing way more. But hey, can’t complain if 90% of the movie worked for me outside of that
Also the son raped zsofia right? Or something happened.
Yeah he definitely did. I think it was a hint that the whole family was sinister. It’s also implied the son was abused by Guy’s character so it’s a case of abused becoming an abuser.
ending seems to be divisive everywhere I look, but the best interpretation I saw was that even in seeking better treatment in Israel, the “home”, he is now left a shell of a man. He’s bound to a wheelchair like his wife, he has no voice, and his work is given a different meaning from his niece to push forward Zionism, even though he himself never entertained the idea that Israel was the end all be all. Even the theme we hear at the beginning with the Statue of Liberty and throughout, it sounds very commercialized in the epilogue. I saw it that his American dream was no longer his. I think had it ended right before the epilogue it would’ve stuck the landing way more. But hey, can’t complain if 90% of the movie worked for me outside of that
Wow. Well said.
Yes I agree. His entire life work was hijacked for Zionism. She mentioned the Holocaust inspiring the the interior architecture, specifically the height of the ceilings, which the viewer should know was never mentioned but rather was the result of his own angry ambitions for autonomy - and, importantly, people got killed for it in the process! Laslo shows little remorse albeit for the loss of progress and profit
I think there’s a lot of meaning here. It’s a long and plot-dense movie but that’s what I’m thinkin right now.
ending seems to be divisive everywhere I look, but the best interpretation I saw was that even in seeking better treatment in Israel, the “home”, he is now left a shell of a man. He’s bound to a wheelchair like his wife, he has no voice, and his work is given a different meaning from his niece to push forward Zionism, even though he himself never entertained the idea that Israel was the end all be all. Even the theme we hear at the beginning with the Statue of Liberty and throughout, it sounds very commercialized in the epilogue. I saw it that his American dream was no longer his. I think had it ended right before the epilogue it would’ve stuck the landing way more. But hey, can’t complain if 90% of the movie worked for me outside of that
Word I feel you but even the stuff before that, we see Lazlo crying at the hospital and then later it skips to his wife all sudden walking and calls out oh boy for rape. And then he disappears and it becomes about finding Guys character. Idk if just felt like a weird switch and then we finally see Lazlo again in the epilogue years later
Yeah he definitely did. I think it was a hint that the whole family was sinister. It’s also implied the son was abused by Guy’s character so it’s a case of abused becoming an abuser.
Ok I thought so cus obviously he was acting creepy af over her but when I seen her walking back straightening her skirt I said “ok something happened, and it prolly didn’t involve consent”. And even after that I was thinking to myself “I wonder if they are gonna push the generational trauma further between him and Guy and maybe Guy will rape someone?” And then walaa the mufucka rapes Lazlo smh
Word I feel you but even the stuff before that, we see Lazlo crying at the hospital and then later it skips to his wife all sudden walking and calls out oh boy for rape. And then he disappears and it becomes about finding Guys character. Idk if just felt like a weird switch and then we finally see Lazlo again in the epilogue years later
yeah I thought that was jarring as well. Feel like if it flashed a time skip it would’ve made more sense. Instead it’s implied, but not really stated well enough. I didn’t mind László not being present at the dinner though, I thought it was conveyed greatly by Felicity’s character, and a strongpoint for her. Plus it really makes seeing him in that poor state in the epilogue hit hard, since the last we see him is defeatedly agreeing to go to Israel and how that choice has left him.
ending seems to be divisive everywhere I look, but the best interpretation I saw was that even in seeking better treatment in Israel, the “home”, he is now left a shell of a man. He’s bound to a wheelchair like his wife, he has no voice, and his work is given a different meaning from his niece to push forward Zionism, even though he himself never entertained the idea that Israel was the end all be all. Even the theme we hear at the beginning with the Statue of Liberty and throughout, it sounds very commercialized in the epilogue. I saw it that his American dream was no longer his. I think had it ended right before the epilogue it would’ve stuck the landing way more. But hey, can’t complain if 90% of the movie worked for me outside of that
yeah I thought that was jarring as well. Feel like if it flashed a time skip it would’ve made more sense. Instead it’s implied, but not really stated well enough. I didn’t mind László not being present at the dinner though, I thought it was conveyed greatly by Felicity’s character, and a strongpoint for her. Plus it really makes seeing him in that poor state in the epilogue hit hard, since the last we see him is defeatedly agreeing to go to Israel and how that choice has left him.
Yeah I had no problem with her character handling it, but just the end before the epilogue being about finding the guy character seemed like a weird choice, and something I didn’t care about. I was more wondering “where’s felicity is she ok?” (Because we don’t see her again after she got dragged) and also “where tf is Lazlo?!”