Elric

3y

I'd have to give up the Best Songs and Best Films threads to think about that again no that was a cool phase tho

RASIE

3y

Interesting read, but i do gotta contest the writer's downplaying of the lyrics as just playful kid-centric pop moreso than anything sexually charged.

I wont argue that the song (lyrics, music, and all) is definitely intended to sound and look more kid-friendly, and is indeed very different from Britney Spears' debut as a "blossoming schoolgirl". But the song's kiddie bop style and the lyrics go hand-in-hand

I'm usually not the type to get hung up on the whole "they're a child!!!", grooming discourse that a gold chunk of Twitter users seem to be obsessed with... But there's definitely something not right about a song and video with those lyrics being featured on a wall-sized screen in a room with a little girl jumping on her bed singing along.

I don't think the writer has any immoral intentions in how he describes it or anything — but to mention lines like "i'll show you mine if you show me yours" (a cliche of little kid-speak) and basically say it's more innocent than not because it's a vague, meta-concept of Pop, doesn't hold water for me. He makes a point to say it's not nearly as bad as "Barbie Girl", but i'd argue the two songs are more similar than not — they are conceptually achieving the same thing with the kiddie-bop music and personas; Aqua's lyrics were just more upfront and satirical, while B*Witched were "innocently suggestive".

They also claim B*Witched "aimed at 9-10 year olds", and I'm not sure how true this actually is. The other singles from their debut are very much a "who's who" of 90s pop group genre formula: Slow romance ballads and bubblegum kitsch. But the same year "C'est La Vie" the was featured in Smart House, it was also in What Women Want and Daria — which definitely aren't children's media.

I'm sure a lot of preteen girls listened to them, just like tons listened to Christina Aguilera and Britney. But B'Witched's debut album didn't go platinum in 12 months by "aiming at 9-10 year olds".

TL;DR - Didn't mean to sound like i dont like the article you shared fam haha, on the contrary. Im gonna read more in that series cause there was some interesting bits in that C'est La Vie one

suzuki

3y

they ripped off wire twice and wire got paid handsomely for their trouble!

RASIE

3y

Yeah those were so dope. Inspired me to just start doodling s*** in my notebooks for film/music logging

Elric

3y

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I've always been scared to get creative (since I was in high school anyway) but I kind of proved something to myself with those even though it's just s***ty little replications was kinda like Warhol in miniature now that I think about it

suzuki

3y

u got more of them? i wanna see

suzuki

3y

i buy what he's saying about b*witched and all saints copying spice girls and hitting slightly different demos tho...but i feel what you're saying

yea popular is dope...here's a couple of my favorite entries

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/11/the-tornados-telstar/

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/the-specials-ghost-town/

edit: not hearsay all saints

Elric

3y

I've always been scared to get creative (since I was in high school anyway) but I kind of proved something to myself with those even though it's just s***ty little replications was kinda like Warhol in miniature now that I think about it

RASIE

3y

Hope you keep them somewhere tucked away and dont ever trash em

Elric

3y

I've still got Electronic Gaming Monthlies from '97 dont worry those are being kept

Elric

3y

I've still got Electronic Gaming Monthlies from '97 dont worry those are being kept

internet buddy

3y

How often you play them?

RASIE

3y

Britpop =/= "british pop music"

JeffersonSteelflex

3y

Screamadelica is not britpop

RASIE

3y

Several of the bands/albums in OP arent what i'd call britpop either but im happy to talk about them anyway haha

suzuki

3y

u like bowie ziggy, aladdin sane, diamond dogs? im sure u know those records but if u don't they are where suede got it all from

Elric

3y

Bowie + Smiths = Britpop almost

rise zero

3y

Jack Black told a story how we went to see Radiohead play and Supergrass was opening, and bumped into Elliott Smith right before Radiohead got on stage. He only went to see Supergrass

suzuki

3y

notice spiritualized aren't in OP...great band...his gf ran off with richard ashcroft (the verve) and he got super depressed and addicted to heroin and made this s***

demo

3y

this album is a classic. saw spiritualized live in april and it blew me away

Fella

3y

The opening track with the Elvis interpolation coming in stronger towards the climax always makes me cry