do you actually think travis scott is coming up with the marketing campaigns for don toliver? lmao

What a stupid thread lol

Famous rapper Ari Lennox

thought people called OVO a sweatshop cause the artists basically helping make his music

travis and cole don’t need them for that

yea it's hard to buy that one, I'm a big fan of Roy Woods but that man would be a bum on the streets at this point if it wasn't for OVO, he isn't talented enough to get a decent deal at another label. OVO feeding his whole family by Drake taking him on tour

Majid Jordan are decently successful but their style of music isn't mainstream, so it's hard for them regardless. Even harder for dvsn, there's not a single artist doing numbers that sounds anything like dvsn

You’re a dumb ass

Don Toliver is huge actually lmao

Nah I'm saying he should be working with him more & putting serious money behind him

huge selling 75k fw? Da Baby was selling 120k a few years ago lol

DaBaby was just even bigger lol pause

75k is pretty damn good for a non top 1% hip hop artist idk what to tell you if you don’t think that’s impressive. If you think he should be bigger, I get that but I think he’s doing amazing

Don Toliver is actually the artist ppl tend to ignore when trying to discredit Cactus Jack because they see he’s doing so well

Sheck Wes and SoFaygo on the other hand? Yeah idk what that’s all about

Not letting Sheck be on Fien is questionable behavior

Trav and Cole aren’t taking their artists songs for themselves.

The sweatshop meme comes from Drake taking his artists music for himself.

He stretched one PND demo into three songs across two different albums. That’s some sweatshop s***

i don’t think these rappers’ labels are the primary source of the artist’s budget and i don’t think they make enough off of them to invest long term either.

atlantic records is probably worth billions. travis scott himself isn’t even worth a fraction of a major label. the amount of money his label can shell out to multiple artists is little to nothing compared to the majors. that’s why these guys sign joint deals after signing to another artist. they don’t have the budget for that.

DaBaby was a huge artist for a few years

the biggest act on OVO only releasing every 4 years and writing for others doesnt help lol

Zack is gonna find a way to bring up Kendrick. Overly Dedicated

Probably because everyone knows Drake takes Party’s songs. And in their first interview at Hot 97, Majid Jordan said once they linked with Drake they immediately were in the studio working on song after song and said it was basically a studio camp with literally tents. Hold On We’re Going Home is a song that came from that process.

Travis isn’t a traditional rapper like Ye and we know of all the help they get. It’s for the guy who always talks about his pen while niggas are giving him songs.

cole, yes

travis, no

if you don't do drake numbers you aren't big apparently. these people are f***ing stupid

Catcus jack isn't a sweatshop

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It's a money laundering business

Most of these other artists are signed to major labels

OVO’s artists are only signed to OVO

Its shows you how big of a difference is between them and ovo when travs ONE single artist with 76k only outsells every last project put out by ovo put together besides drake, this includes party.

The issue is ovo artists are doing literally worst than indie numbers without any indie benefits and most of them also express how they get f***ed around at ovo, again this includes party.

Meanwhile dreamville and cactus jack artists are doing way better than ovo in terms of numbers and concert/festival appearances plus most of them are happy, so far from what they said.

There is no excuse for ovo to be as bad as it is with the literal number 1 rapper in the genre and top 3 popularity wise in the genre of all time - its been enough time and they had plenty of artists on the roster.

If it was 5 years or younger, and/or only had one or two artists on the label ever then it would be understandable.

That is why the others arent clowned on as much, and also ovo always have artists leaving their label wether by their choice or getting dropped.

It is one of the worst performing labels, that are a legit imprint, ever created and its years older than the other labels youre comparing it too, which makes it even worst.

Drake is ahead of everyone else (pre 2024 ) while everyone else is ahead of Drake's label.

@op

Toliver and Trav have a f*** ton of collabs so I think that logic is flawed.

What I’m saying is that the label business is incredibly opaque. Trav is not making the big decisions and can’t even if he wanted too lol he’s still signed to like 5 other distributors and labels lol so is Toliver. It’s not as easy as “just put em on”. Lots of people behind closed doors get to decide that s*** man. Just the way it is.