• Defund the police
• M4A
• Schooling for all
• Student debt remove
• Green new deal

Pls. all the candidates who support these programs won their elections . Pls state effective arguments against these (I don't want to be in a echo chamber so I would like to see opposite opinions or agreements)

edit:

• Legalization of weed

a bit off-topic but she hit the nail on the head here

Don't take cute photos with activist and BLM, then get mad the republicans use it against you and try to separate yourself from it

I’m not conservative at all but

Defund the police

• people misunderstand this and they get scared for their safety. Lots of crime issues and to them reducing funding for police is counterintuitive

M4A

• people think this will hurt the economy/cost too much. Also worry that it will result in a worse healthcare system and hurt jobs by getting rid of private insurance

Schooling for all

• assuming this is college it’s the same thing of people worried it’ll ruin the economy in terms of cost

Student debt remove

• as above. Honestly as left as I am even I’m not so sure about this

Green new deal

• environmental regulations hurt free business and by proxy hurt the economy is the argument against it

@op do you mean M4A as in single-payer, or do you mean universal healthcare as a principle?

universal (a la Bernie)

I'm liberal

college should be free, if Europeans can do it we can too

The GOP counter to all of the above, which they're already trotting out with regards to a stimulus bill:

Fiscal responsibility.

the issue is the results from the elections show such fears are false. Pls the data/research argues in the opposite direction

Schooling for all would benefit privileged whites

If you make college free for everyone, the upper class benefits the most

Test scores will determine who does and who doesn’t get into college. Studies show those who come from households with higher incomes perform better in standardized testing

With that being said though, college should be ACCESSIBLE to everyone. Similarly to taxes, those who make more should pay full price, those who make less should pay accordingly to what they can afford. Nobody should be denied an education or be forced to take on unreasonable amounts of debt to do so.

Agree for the most part

But a lot of the lefts issue is how they present this stuff

Your average person doesn’t understand that defunding the police doesn’t mean no criminal accountability and therefore the GOP can use it as a fear tactic

It’s something that the left HAS to work on cause conservative arguments boil down very easily for people who don’t do their own research

hi, moderate

AFAIK most people support those policies, but vote against their own interests due to right-wing propaganda

Guess what? Most people are for health-care coverage for pre-existing conditions, and being able to stay on their parents insurance.

You know what they hate? Obamacare.

How exactly would a plan for more accessible higher education benefit the demographic that already has the most access to it? No one is talking about making private institutions and Ivies free, the change would come for community college and trade schools. Both lower income communities and families would benefit the most from this as these are the people that are almost completely excluded from higher education otherwise.

the issue that people care more about presentation than ideas

The current political media machine is sickening, boomers fall victim to it every day without questioning it.

Well actually, Bernie’s plan is single-payer. Biden supports a universal healthcare system via the public option. Most moderates support this too, which is a mix of public & private insurance which allows those on private to keep their insurance, while those who are uncovered to be covered via the public option. This will lower prices and increase competition, and if the single-payer method is the best, it will be organically achieved

That’s what politics is

Like it or not the GOP is communicating far better w the working class than the dems

That’s why elections are even close

!!

There absolutely are people who say college in general should be free, in fact there’s one a few posts up lol

But obviously you didn’t take any effort to read my entire post and that’s very clear lmao

what's the pushback against Bernies plan. (I admit out of all of the policies progressive have this is the one I have done the least research)

It would abolish private insurance which 1.) will never get through Congress, even with a Dem majority

2.) would cost significantly more money

3.) would kick people off their private insurance, this is America, we should have a right to choose

4.) all of those people who work in the healthcare sector for private insurance would be without jobs

5.) i do not trust the government with my well-being lmao

So if there’s another way to do this without these drawbacks, it’s obviously better

And like I said, if the government provided healthcare turns out to actually be better like Bernie believes, everyone will want it and private insurance will either have to lower costs & up the quality, or it will be phased out altogether and everyone will be covered via the government provided insurance.

Here's a hot take, it's nothing to do with presentation. The problem with most leftist ideas is that they simply don't have a platform to spread them through, because Granny Nancy and her gang of moderates are moving with the swiftness to dead any progressive proposal before it really gets any time to become something.
Moderates would rather meet far right folk in the middle while being tugged that way themselves.

Also, the Green New Deal is kinda a disaster

Instead let’s focus on:

• investing in high speed rail

• transitioning to 90% + electric vehicles by 2035

• investing into renewable energy like solar & nuclear

• lowering corporate taxes and replacing them with a carbon tax

• abolish zoning and discourage NIMBYism by building more multiple-unit housing

Will all do wonders for climate change and won’t have all these ridiculous economic attachments to them. In fact, we can grow the economy and also prevent climate change simultaneously, it doesn’t have to be one or the other

That’s very fair
I’d argue it still fits under presentation to an extent but yea I think the “fear” of progressivism is overblown and the truth is people just aren’t offering that clearly

Look at Florida w the minimum wage

65% support and yet Trump won the state

Tbh get rid of the minimum wage or at least enforce some sort of federal minimum wage scale that matches the cost of living in the area the employment is.

Like $15 in LA/SF/NYC is significantly different than $15 in rural Arkansas

Honestly I’d rather have no-to-little minimum wage and have UBI instead

Dumb ass post lmfaoo