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  • Nov 11, 2020
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    Jowe Buddew

    Including financially?

    if youre talking about china, then i don't really care about a "threat" to US global financial hegemony, and neither of us know enough to talk about the nuances of that or whatever.

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    Bill Ackman

    What is your solution genius

    probably something that doesn't include killing people, that'd be a good start.

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    Synopsis

    probably something that doesn't include killing people, that'd be a good start.

    You should tell that to the nations denying innocent people human rights

  • Nov 11, 2020
    Bill Ackman

    You should tell that to the nations denying innocent people human rights

    oh now we're on to the part where america just does this all to promote human rights lol, im out.

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    if youre talking about china, then i don't really care about a "threat" to US global financial hegemony, and neither of us know enough to talk about the nuances of that or whatever.

    I deadass know nothing. I'm trying to figure out why we would be laying down drone strikes for no reason

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    Jowe Buddew

    I deadass know nothing. I'm trying to figure out why we would be laying down drone strikes for no reason

    they're not for no reason but they are not necessary

  • Nov 11, 2020
    CLB Fractions

    they're not for no reason but they are not necessary

    Fair, I don't know enough about our motives so I have no way of proposing solutions.

    I just wanted to try to get some perspective.

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    Defund the police
    Ridiculous and the people in favour of this are anarchists. Would lead to a huge crime increase and presumably the end of the country as gangs would take full control

    M4A
    Huge strain on economy

    Schooling for all
    Huge strain on economy

    Student debt remove
    This is even more ridiculous in the way warren proposed it. discussed this before

    Green new deal
    Too ambitious and too expensive

  • Nov 11, 2020
    Side Nigha

    Defund the police is an abhorrent idea.

    The rest are things that sound great on paper but aren’t financially feasible in the US

  • Nov 11, 2020
    Jowe Buddew

    I deadass know nothing. I'm trying to figure out why we would be laying down drone strikes for no reason

    because we're an imperialist empire

  • Nov 11, 2020
    Buchan

    Defund the police
    Ridiculous and the people in favour of this are anarchists. Would lead to a huge crime increase and presumably the end of the country as gangs would take full control

    M4A
    Huge strain on economy

    Schooling for all
    Huge strain on economy

    Student debt remove
    This is even more ridiculous in the way warren proposed it. discussed this before

    Green new deal
    Too ambitious and too expensive

    i said in some areas u can cut funding for police and in some areas u need more funding and they attacked me 😭😭

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    safe

    I’m not conservative at all but

    Defund the police

    • people misunderstand this and they get scared for their safety. Lots of crime issues and to them reducing funding for police is counterintuitive

    M4A

    • people think this will hurt the economy/cost too much. Also worry that it will result in a worse healthcare system and hurt jobs by getting rid of private insurance

    Schooling for all

    • assuming this is college it’s the same thing of people worried it’ll ruin the economy in terms of cost

    Student debt remove

    • as above. Honestly as left as I am even I’m not so sure about this

    Green new deal

    • environmental regulations hurt free business and by proxy hurt the economy is the argument against it

    You right. What Republicans have done effectively is pander to their base's fears with grandiose rollouts. Trump was the perfect mouthpiece. I feel like most progressive ideas are things people are ok with but have been provided with misinformation from politicians that are being lobbyied by corporations.

  • safe

    Agree for the most part

    But a lot of the lefts issue is how they present this stuff

    Your average person doesn’t understand that defunding the police doesn’t mean no criminal accountability and therefore the GOP can use it as a fear tactic

    It’s something that the left HAS to work on cause conservative arguments boil down very easily for people who don’t do their own research

  • monza sp1 x

    hi, moderate

    AFAIK most people support those policies, but vote against their own interests due to right-wing propaganda

    Guess what? Most people are for health-care coverage for pre-existing conditions, and being able to stay on their parents insurance.

    You know what they hate? Obamacare.

    Facts

  • Bill Ackman

    And to add to that, they shame people into thinking they’re on some sort of moral high ground, and if you disagree with them, you’re a bad person.

    Maybe they should recognize their privilege to play political games with people’s lives and try to actually make some real impactful change instead of yelling stupid ass slogans

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    pjohnbannedthanku

    You right. What Republicans have done effectively is pander to their base's fears with grandiose rollouts. Trump was the perfect mouthpiece. I feel like most progressive ideas are things people are ok with but have been provided with misinformation from politicians that are being lobbyied by corporations.

    some people actually want to disband police when they say defund it.

    Also I dont think most people would be okay with the ideas op listed tbh which is why they haven't passed

    Defund the police - I think it depends on area

    M4A - most people are against m4a but most are okay with universal coverage

    Schooling for all - school can be free if u do well in high school

    Student debt remove - against this
    Green new deal - against this

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    Yeah I guess we don't know. Would be interesting to see someone who's socially more conservative but has progressive policies run in one of these areas

    Any example of these guys? Can't imagine an outspoken socially conservative with progressive issues

  • Nov 11, 2020
    pjohnbannedthanku

    Any example of these guys? Can't imagine an outspoken socially conservative with progressive issues

    because it can't exist lol its a complete contradiction

  • Nov 11, 2020
    pjohnbannedthanku

    Any example of these guys? Can't imagine an outspoken socially conservative with progressive issues

    people who are alt right sometimes

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    Bill Ackman

    I hope Pete runs again in 2024 if Biden doesn’t run for re-election. I’m sure he’s going to be in his cabinet

    Pete a solid candidate. But America not ready for a gay president at all. Can't imagine the outcome

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    pjohnbannedthanku

    Pete a solid candidate. But America not ready for a gay president at all. Can't imagine the outcome

    go ahead and explain what makes him a solid candidate.

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    pjohnbannedthanku

    Pete a solid candidate. But America not ready for a gay president at all. Can't imagine the outcome

    hes no different from joe biden lmao

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    CLB Fractions

    hes no different from joe biden lmao

    more dangerous

  • Bill Ackman

    This is the problem with America’s youth, they want a nice guy to promise them a bunch of s*** that will never happen to be president

    Honestly, I don’t care if the president is the biggest a****** known to man

    If they gets s*** done, they have my vote

    And no KTTrumpers, Trump was not just an a******, he was also a horrible president

    What makes Trump a horrible president

  • Nov 11, 2020
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    more dangerous

    how?