you've apparently never taken an anthropology, geology, or any science class for that matter because a lot of them explain the why

And science isn't man made however the way we choose to understand it (language, mathematics, theory) is man made

Tf are you talking about lmao

are you serious?

o brother

What are u talking about dumbass

How the f*** is "science" man made what the f*** are you even talking about

What's man made are the way humans convey scientific concepts to each other

If i shoot you and you die theres an explanation for that which is science

the question “Why does anything exist?” or “Why does the universe exist?” is a philosophical question

science has absolutely no place whatsoever to be put up as an “answer” to any of those questions, it can’t walk you from the birth of the universe top-down (you just said “oh the Big Bang is a detailed scientific process” the other part of the problem that you’re choosing to ignore, genius, is that there had to be something there before the Big Bang took place regardless)

the actual discipline and study of mathematics, logic and science is man made, it requires a human consciousness or a level of human understanding in order to be comprehended and made useful

science is an academic discipline, a man made construct to study the world around us dude holy s***, you mean to tell me that science is something that we just discovered out of thin air one day?

Op is above stupid atheists and agnostics

that isn’t even to mention that the Big Bang theory was originally posited by a Catholic priest atheists engage in scary woo creationism without even knowing any better

Biggest misconception about it is as if it's something just because people ran with it

Atheism itself is just a word for not believing in higher power

No more no less. It's not a movement.

It's simply NOT believing in God

You're painting with a pretty broad brush do you have any actual proof that "most" scientists believe that or are you just inferring it based on what your view of science is (that might conflict with their view)? Plenty of religious scientists around the world also in many different subjects ofc

anthropology, geology, or any science class

These are the only science classes you’ve taken?

Damn so you have it more figured out than he did? He wasn't smart enough to realize it was incoherent

Kinda joking ofc but always just strikes me weird when people just with a casual interest or students (I'm assuming you're not like a professor or scientist or something) can so confidently disregard the opinion or views of someone like Stephen hawking

it can't walk you from the birth of the universe top down

IT LITERALLY CAN NIGGA WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

The other part you're choosing to ignore is that there had to be something before the big bang

Again, the common consensus is that the universe was basically a hot, dense soup before the big bang. There are, again, very detailed explanations for all of this s***

Okay and by that logic there also had to be something before God, right? Why does "wHaT wAs tHeRe bEfOrE tHe bIg bAnG" disprove the BBT but apparently a mystical deity appearing out of nowhere makes more sense

Am i supposed to sit here and name every single science class you stupid motherfucker?

Nah the only other science class ive taken is reproductive science when all I do is f*** your mom during the lecture

Dumb ass nigga get blocked

Theism is the mental solace to rationalize and accept this self importance

This is a generalization

Does “build from a material framework” mean doing scientific research? If yes eventually you come to unknowns and that’s where god comes in

Have you taken physics

how many times have i mentioned dawkings hawking and other pop scientists dude most of them literally operate in materialism and take what they find as the end all be all after it is found

they operate under the guise or concept of materialism, they have to get materialistic justifications for their theories and different experiments + studies that they conduct. this is how science works, the issue is when people take it for all that there is, as in there is no room for the philosophical implications of said theory and/or study or what was found

this is where you get people saying s*** like “we’re just a bunch of cells and neurons dude” no, that’s what we are STRICTLY UNDER a scientific EYE, which is ONE FIELD of STUDY

it is not THE FIELD OF STUDY

fukk atheists, its Jesus4Life

Nah too much math for me

you say it can walk you from the Big Bang down, and then you assert “a hot dense soup before the Big Bang”

that is exactly what im talking about, you’re skipping over s***. where did this “hot dense soup” come from? it just came out of thin air i guess?

no, God does not abide by logic or else it wouldn’t be God dude. the perennialist notion around religions around the world is that God is the uncaused cause, it isn’t even a coherent question

uh yeah apparently because he didn’t even know what he was doing was philosophizing from a dogmatic scientistic framework

just because someone has a ton of knowledge and/or authority in a certain topic or subject does not mean that they cannot be wrong on certain things

Hawking was obviously a genius and way above my intellectual pay grade, but he too, operated under scientific materialism which is absolutely untenable philosophically.

Is there a gas leak in your house or are you just naturally this illiterate