no u dont understand, London is better than everyone here and we must know about it

F*** it, I'll prove 'em wrong

Workers of the world unite

Man, the whole gig economy is a s***show right now and it really does seem like the biggest crunch is on the drivers, which is in turn f***ing up meal delivery. From that reddit post I linked earlier:

This is having a fun little side affect on the restaurant industry the past few months as well. Doing business with DoorDash(Caviar) and UberEats has become a real gamble recently. Many establishments have turned to opening “ghost kitchens” to maximize their production capacity to deal with regulations proactively, however now those are turning into big problems for some of us.

Without enough drivers, food that was scheduled to be picked up at 3 will sit till 3:45 and then the restaurant has to decide between sending out subpar food OR completely eating the cost of the first order and remaking it so that they don’t end up loosing a customer entirely. In the past, bumps in the road were picked up by the middle man(gh, Ue, DD) but over the last four months they have fought tooth and nail over every reimbursement.

And to top it off, recently they have started changing their arrival ETA’s on the fly. So imagine the order comes in at three and they ask us to have it ready by 3:20, and we do. It’s fresh and hot in the window as the timer reads “driver arriving in two minutes”. But then suddenly the order timer completely changes and now reads “arriving in 31 minutes” and the company refuses to understand why you couldn’t simply freeze the food in time and keep it perfect till the new arrival time. Plus hey, they may even change it a few more times. Then after an hour and a half the guest cancels the order, because...duh..., and the company can’t believe that you attribute this lost sale and wasted resource to their unreliable schedules.

Another fun one is

Driver arrives to pick up an order for Idk, Lauren. The host radios the kitchen, who tell them that Lauren’s order is being bagged up as we speak, so the host tells them it will just be one minute. The driver then turns around and straight up leaves, and the timer for when Lauren’s order will be picked up now reads 41 minutes.

OR...OR...my absolute favorite.

It’s been a busy day for our ghost kitchens, and this means that it’s a busy day for delivery drivers across the city as well. Because Uber and DD drivers are in high demand the app companies will literally deactivate your restaurant with zero notification. Unless you’re closely watching the little stop light icon in the top left of the screen, you may go two hours without a sale because you didn’t notice that DoorDash has decided you closed six hours early tonight, and put you on a forced 600 minute pause, effectively killing your business for the evening. Now your night crew who just clocked in are furious because they just got sent home after two hours, the owners are furious because they are utterly convinced that you chose to pause sales because you’re lazy, and your phone won’t stop ringing with folks asking if they can place orders by phone ( which would be fine if we had a way to deliver them independently of the apps).

So ya, I guess that was a rant, but after having our Memorial weekend tanked by DoorDash’s inability to pay people actual wages, I feel like I’m not in the wrong here. Every restaurant in the country is playing “just break even until the regulations are lifted” and being used by these massive companies to pad their own margins is sort of beyond infuriating.

If you use the ordering hubs I beg you to choose Grubhub. DoorDash/Caviar has some issues but they aren’t terrible. Most of all, please, please, please, STOP USING UBER EATS.

If you have the option though, for the love of god please call and order directly. Helping your favorite restaurants deal with their customers directly has a massive positive effect on us, and will often get you your order three times faster.

Ok, angry kitchen rant over.

Also am I the only one who's too goddamn cheap to use Uber Eats or Doordash ever? I'm not trying to pay that kind of fee, I'll drive my ass to the store and get it if I want it that bad.

OP A PIECE OF S***

true, but the question op is really asking is why do we want/expect gig-work which started by having a different draw (making extra cash on the side) to become 'just another job' so to speak.

There are genuine reasons why you would want that of course, but asking these questions on here all you're gonna get is plants and his ilk riding in on their high horses to make themselves feel an ounce of self-worth by insulting the op without even attempting to answer the question.

Once again I do my best to teach people that they should have compassion for the fellow humans who are damn near on the bottom rung of society.

If you feel offended, or like I'm on some high horse, that's all in your own head. I'm a f***ing idiot bro and I know it.

I'm not compassionate towards them because I'm doing my part for the revolution

Exacerbating the contradictions of capitalism by giving the uber driver two stars

I mean I get what you're saying, but at the same time you and I are interpreting what was initially an obviously inflammatory question. I know I had a knee-jerk "what the f***" reaction, but I thought it'd be a good opportunity to discuss the broader gig economy situation.

And I'm glad we are because holy s*** what an awful indicator of our broader quality of life it is if a gig economy job designed to exploit margins on your labor is STILL preferable to traditional factory/warehouse or fast food work.

OP: Why do we want gig-work to turn into normal employment?

Plants: I don't know how to tell you that you should be nice to people.

Yeah. You really are an idiot.

If you’re not a compassionate person, then just say that @op

And then I attempted to do it anyway. But you got triggered and didn't read that one i guess? Nice name calling btw.

Let's be honest, the only way to get replies on this site is to ask inflammatory questions. Again, the issue is with the forum and how it's not suitable for serious discussions.

But yea I agree that the implications of a potential gig-economy future are pretty terrible. I'm glad that courts around the world are ruling against Uber/Lyft's 'contractor' set-up.

Oh no, flaphead has stepped into the shoes of a gig-worker and realizes just how down bad one must be to try and grind that out.

And what's that? He's having compassion for his fellow humans regardless of the circumstances that surround them? Outstanding!

You should still have compassion for them, people down bad youth suicide rates never been higher, income inequality at the same level when the french cut everyone's heads off, etc. etc. Idk how to better explain it. Like, just, be nice?

I did read it. It's just your first post again with extra words. In fact every post you make is this same thing, sometimes said in one sentence sometimes in ten.

@Enforce @plants will y'all both chill I was just trying to talk about how f***ing garbage Uber is I don't want to get in the middle of this

I mean there’s no need to respect them less.

I’ve been on DoorDash for a year because I’m making more than double minimum wage, even after paying for gas, and it’s flexible enough to still do design or whatever during the day.

So now you might understand why i find it hard to explain to someone why they should care about their fellow wageslave.....it's the bare minimum!

bc über be coming in clutch sometimes

Americans are weird as f***

Lmao applying their own situation, resources and decision making to other peoples lives that have something completely different going on

“Well if I were you I’d just…”

Nigga shut up

Lol at “trying to get rich” from Uber and wanting to pay your bills with it being the same thing

You need real world perspective homie

Are they? Maybe on social media posts. Irl, gig workers and service workers are the most disrespected and invisible people in the US economy besides day laborers without documents and prison labor.

He perfectly explained everything the history and why it’s a problem

You're not a leftist

just because he doesn't agree with every talking point doesn't mean he isn't lol