Sep 13, 2021·1 replyTwist Your Capjust because he doesn't agree with every talking point doesn't mean he isn't lol
No
- Sep 13, 2021·1 replyspace0cadet
No
not good to have your all or nothing mentality in politics, means you aren't forming your own opinions but into a mold instead
Sep 13, 2021Idk. I used to be a uber driver. Easiest job ever lol
Sep 13, 2021·1 replyOkay I have just realized people in this thread got triggered by me misusing the word "compassion"
English is not my first language and sometimes words have different power in my language than in English
What I meant by "compassion towards gig workers" was not me asking why are we nice to them when we are using Uber or why are we not spitting on them whenever we see them
The question itt was Why are people so strongly supporting turning gig workers to real employees when this job was never meant to be more than just a side hustle
So I'm not asking why are we nice to other people. We should have compassion towards anyone and I get why @plants said what he said now and I agree.
What I was asking was why whenever we hear another "I work for Uber Eats and I make a 1$ a day" story, people go towards "we should make Uber treat them as employees!" instead of "If they make 1$ on Uber Eats than why won't they look for a real job instead of working on an app that was made for quick buck not a full time job"
And I guess the answer is - We want Uber to treat them as employees bc most of Uber drivers are people who are simply not able to find a real job and their last resort is this s*** show and Uber's actions are basically exploitation of the poor
plants 🌻Sep 13, 2021honey beatsOkay I have just realized people in this thread got triggered by me misusing the word "compassion"
English is not my first language and sometimes words have different power in my language than in English
What I meant by "compassion towards gig workers" was not me asking why are we nice to them when we are using Uber or why are we not spitting on them whenever we see them
The question itt was Why are people so strongly supporting turning gig workers to real employees when this job was never meant to be more than just a side hustle
So I'm not asking why are we nice to other people. We should have compassion towards anyone and I get why @plants said what he said now and I agree.
What I was asking was why whenever we hear another "I work for Uber Eats and I make a 1$ a day" story, people go towards "we should make Uber treat them as employees!" instead of "If they make 1$ on Uber Eats than why won't they look for a real job instead of working on an app that was made for quick buck not a full time job"
And I guess the answer is - We want Uber to treat them as employees bc most of Uber drivers are people who are simply not able to find a real job and their last resort is this s*** show and Uber's actions are basically exploitation of the poor
yeah there was some confusion with the term compassion I can see that now.Glad ktt as a whole could come together and help answer your question even if it took 4 pages and some mud-flinging to get there lol
Sep 13, 2021Uber/DD was meant to be just for side money, mfs wanna make careers out of that s*** and that’s their problem.
- Sep 13, 2021·1 replyTwist Your Cap
not good to have your all or nothing mentality in politics, means you aren't forming your own opinions but into a mold instead
I agree, but they clearly don't grasp the concept of working jobs like these because you have been marginalized from the system, nor do they understand the contradiction how it's supposed to be a "side hustle" yet uber is a multi-billion dollar company and can afford to pay them less than desperation wages
It's not just "not agreeing", it's that they're missing the other piece of the puzzle -- applying marxist a***ysis -- to be considered a leftist
- Sep 13, 2021·1 reply
Looks like OP fixed his incorrect thought, he came around eventually
- Sep 13, 2021·1 replyspace0cadet
I agree, but they clearly don't grasp the concept of working jobs like these because you have been marginalized from the system, nor do they understand the contradiction how it's supposed to be a "side hustle" yet uber is a multi-billion dollar company and can afford to pay them less than desperation wages
It's not just "not agreeing", it's that they're missing the other piece of the puzzle -- applying marxist a***ysis -- to be considered a leftist
Uber hasn't turned a profit in 1 quarter yet if I remember correctly
I mean I did the uber, doordash thing a few years ago because it gave me freedom in regards to hours while working on other projects, it isn't about being marginalized typically
Sep 13, 2021·edited1) Because the work they do entitles them to full benefits. Ubers entire business relies on them.
2) Why dont yada yada get another job yada yada is an irrelevant assumption based on a idea which is useless to discuss
The entire point is Uber shouldn’t get to swindle them out of health benefits by labeling them as contractors.
- Sep 13, 2021
You guys are overcomplicating this
proper 🔩Sep 13, 2021
MVP Pinheadthis must be op
https://twitter.com/kevchesterr/status/1437216467095801858why bro riding a Tesla if he needs to do Uber to make money
that Tesla is why he needs to Uber for money tbh
- Sep 13, 2021Twist Your Cap
Uber hasn't turned a profit in 1 quarter yet if I remember correctly
I mean I did the uber, doordash thing a few years ago because it gave me freedom in regards to hours while working on other projects, it isn't about being marginalized typically
True! Their CEOs are still worth a lot because of that evaluation off the stock market, though. Their shareholders make a lot of $
I agree, I have a lot of friends who do it and they're not systematically marginalized, but for many people it is about that - look up "ghost work" if you're interested this topic
Sep 13, 2021·1 replyspace0cadetLooks like OP fixed his incorrect thought, he came around eventually
"Incorrect thought"
F***ing cringe. A self aware wolf if there ever was one.
- Sep 13, 2021Tyler1999
Sorry your girl left you for an uber driver op
- Sep 13, 2021plants
I don't know how to tell you that you should care about people.
Sep 13, 2021here we go
- Sep 13, 2021London
"Incorrect thought"
F***ing cringe. A self aware wolf if there ever was one.
- Sep 13, 2021
@op I can tell you are very bothered about this issue,if someone forgot your drink you could’ve just called Uber support buddy
Sep 13, 2021plantsI don't know how to tell you that you should care about people.
- Sep 13, 2021plants
I don't know how to tell you that you should care about people.
Also this
Sep 13, 2021·1 replyhoney beatsSo I'm all for power to the people and so on
I consider my self a leftistBut I don't fully understand what's the deal with the "treat Uber workers as employees" and all those stories about "I work for Uber and I make 1$ a day pls help me I'm starving"
If working conditions for Uber drivers are so s*** why are they doing that full time instead of trying to get a job that's at least paying the minimum?
I'm here really to get smarter not to push my current view so please correct me and explain this to me
Is unemployment really THAT bad that people can't find other jobs than driving for Uber Eats for 1.5$ per day?
Isn't making Uber treat drivers as employees basically killing the idea of a taxi-like service that allows anyone to just log in one night and start driving?I get protecting drivers... like making sure they are safe from getting robbed or when passengers are aggressive.
But I don't understand the compassion towards people that bet their life on working full time on an app that's biggest selling point is "cheap" and "every one can do it"
blaming the individual for the problems of a system is theatre. i'll talk s*** on uber all day, but if someone forgets my drink or whatever theyre still getting five stars because this genuine hellscape of a capitalist system we live in means their survival is on the line for a problem that for me is really more of a minor annoyance
Sep 13, 2021·1 replyhoney beatsSo I'm all for power to the people and so on
I consider my self a leftistBut I don't fully understand what's the deal with the "treat Uber workers as employees" and all those stories about "I work for Uber and I make 1$ a day pls help me I'm starving"
If working conditions for Uber drivers are so s*** why are they doing that full time instead of trying to get a job that's at least paying the minimum?
I'm here really to get smarter not to push my current view so please correct me and explain this to me
Is unemployment really THAT bad that people can't find other jobs than driving for Uber Eats for 1.5$ per day?
Isn't making Uber treat drivers as employees basically killing the idea of a taxi-like service that allows anyone to just log in one night and start driving?I get protecting drivers... like making sure they are safe from getting robbed or when passengers are aggressive.
But I don't understand the compassion towards people that bet their life on working full time on an app that's biggest selling point is "cheap" and "every one can do it"
1. A study showed in 2019 that 33 percent of uber's drivers worked 32 or more hours and they also accounted for 55 percent of total trips. So uber relies HEAVILY on fulltime drivers to earn revenue.
2. They could give an hourly wage. The only downside is that the prices would increase but not to a point that it would be extremely noticeable
3. Uber is exploiting these workers under the guise of part time work. No pto, no health insurance, no injury insurance no type of benefits at all.- Sep 13, 2021Mark Moschino
blaming the individual for the problems of a system is theatre. i'll talk s*** on uber all day, but if someone forgets my drink or whatever theyre still getting five stars because this genuine hellscape of a capitalist system we live in means their survival is on the line for a problem that for me is really more of a minor annoyance
Question isn't whether people are having tough life as full time Uber drivers.
Question is why are we starting to treat Uber as a real option for full time job when it was obviously created as a side hustle
- Sep 13, 2021·3 repliesbigbelts
1. A study showed in 2019 that 33 percent of uber's drivers worked 32 or more hours and they also accounted for 55 percent of total trips. So uber relies HEAVILY on fulltime drivers to earn revenue.
2. They could give an hourly wage. The only downside is that the prices would increase but not to a point that it would be extremely noticeable
3. Uber is exploiting these workers under the guise of part time work. No pto, no health insurance, no injury insurance no type of benefits at all.Those stats make a lot of sense
My question is: If quality of work in Uber is so low why those people would rather change Uber's policy instead of changing jobs to something that's actually a job not just a side hustle
And I guess this thread answered it by saying most of Uber workes work for Uber bc that's the ONLY job they can have
My questions in OP should probably be: Why are people working for uber if they can work as real employees in McDonald's
And answer If I understand correctly is: they can't even get a job at McDonald's