I don’t care about his loss to Kendrick as much as I care about his last great album being 10 years ago
if we're looking at just quality of albums, he's already surpassed him
RD >> GKMC
BP >> TPAB
TBA >> DAMN
nah I don’t think so but I can see why ppl would pick Kendrick over Jay
He’s up there with the Taylor Swifts, Ed Sheerans and Adeles of the world. We dont rank rappers with ghostwriters
Singles artist, catalog like a bloated corpse, dozens of ghostwriters
He never was
RD >> GKMC
BP >> TPAB
TBA >> DAMN
nah I don’t think so but I can see why ppl would pick Kendrick over Jay
I am
Singles artist, catalog like a bloated corpse, dozens of ghostwriters
He never was
"Catalog like a bloated corpse" is incredible.
He’s up there with the Taylor Swifts, Ed Sheerans and Adeles of the world. We dont rank rappers with ghostwriters
he wasn't one of the greatest even before lol
true
My question was for people who used to say he was one of the GOATs before this beef
drakes more a pop musician than a rapper, so is exempt from any goat discussion automatically
Drake got absolutely washed by Kendrick Lamar, and we all know he has a team of writers to write his music. He even takes full tracks from artists and just does karaoke over them (Mob Ties, Jumbotron).
Can people seriously say Drake is even in the GOAT conversation after getting absolutely dogwalked by Pusha T and Kendrick (2 of the biggest Ls in hiphop history btw) and also being exposed for having writers and reference tracks again and again over the years?
Be honest.
U idiot u don’t understand da process, can’t just go around saying he singing peoples references
Well interesting topic as my take on it is definitely No..
See before the beef Drake was the 4th most streamed artist on Spotify peaking at 85 million while Kendrick sitting at 40 million less than half. After the beef Drake dropped 10 million he is now at 74 million which makes him the 13th most streamed artist while Kendrick running right behind at 14th most streamed artist with 73 million.
Well not for the numbers itself but as tell tale that Drake's fanbase or Drake's frequent listeners not only aren't loyal that lowkey subsconsciously throwing him under the bus as he slowly walks into oblivion while his repertoire is far from untouchable otherwise despite losing the beef as far as public perception goes his streams and reputation wouldn't take such a big nosedive as they did with a simple scuffle at world stage.
One other thing is that if we consider that the ones dubbed as the greatest such as Nas, Eminem etc by the time it got to their turn of facing their enemies or competitors they managed to overcome that successfully by winning the beefs on the other hand Drake under pressure he either failed completely or took a consensual loss to say at least so once again NO
Well nonetheless at this point I believe its safe to say officially that 2024 marks the beginning of Drake downfall as a public figure because as an artist it already happened couple years ago
He got outplayed by Kendrick for the battle, but he certainly didn't get out-rapped. I'm not sure why that would disqualify him from being one of the GOATs
Well interesting topic as my take on it is definitely No..
See before the beef Drake was the 4th most streamed artist on Spotify peaking at 85 million while Kendrick sitting at 40 million less than half. After the beef Drake dropped 10 million he is now at 74 million which makes him the 13th most streamed artist while Kendrick running right behind at 14th most streamed artist with 73 million.
Well not for the numbers itself but as tell tale that Drake's fanbase or Drake's frequent listeners not only aren't loyal that lowkey subsconsciously throwing him under the bus as he slowly walks into oblivion while his repertoire is far from untouchable otherwise despite losing the beef as far as public perception goes his streams and reputation wouldn't take such a big nosedive as they did with a simple scuffle at world stage.
One other thing is that if we consider that the ones dubbed as the greatest such as Nas, Eminem etc by the time it got to their turn of facing their enemies or competitors they managed to overcome that successfully by winning the beefs on the other hand Drake under pressure he either failed completely or took a consensual loss to say at least so once again NO
Well nonetheless at this point I believe its safe to say officially that 2024 marks the beginning of Drake downfall as a public figure because as an artist it already happened couple years ago