Sep 4, 2021
dustyboiPeople in here a day later saying it’s trash, if it’s so bad, why you still here? Forget it and move on with your life.
This x1000
Sep 4, 2021HtownwolfDrake albums always have bad user reviews. You have to remember OP that drake has a dedicated haterbase. Some people have an unhealthy hate obsession with dude its mad weird
I never get it lol
It’s amazing to see drake getting so many accolades Bc they can’t just make this Nigga disappear
Sep 4, 2021Lmao nice cope. Most of the people that I know who dislike CLB, dislike it due to reasons completely unrelated to Ye or Donda
Sep 4, 2021
Halloween GangI really enjoyed Donda too. Come to life is one of my favourite Ye songs ever and there are several other gems. Comparisons are just dumb, Kanye and Drake aren’t doing anything remotely similar on these projects. I could kinda understand pitting then against each other if they were in the same lane but they’re not at all.
Facts man its like meat and pizza having beef! I don't care man imma still eat y'all both
Sep 4, 2021·1 replyI think the beef really impacted donda because it seems ye was using it to try to derail Drake’s release.
But if you were unaware of the beef before listening to CLB I’m not sure you’d come out the other side thinking Drake was in some big beef
- Sep 4, 2021·edited·1 replyuser
it's a negative because we've been having this conversation since 2016 and its getting to the point where Drake really doesn't have THAT defining classic genre shifting album. A Blueprint, A Graduation, A GKMC. All Eyez on Me, Aquemini, etc. an album that unarguably is in the classic category of rap albums
he has the Take Care - NWTS - IYRTITL run which was great but none of those are THAT album
and that's why people have the reaction they do...we've been waiting since Views for THAT album and he keeps stat padding which is good for him but that's why people even have these conversations about Drake...is it the quality or the success?
Why is it so important to hear Drake take a more “mature” approach or throw caution to the wind at this point in his career? He’s already the most versatile hip-hop star by a mile and yet people want him to do more? Why can’t we just celebrate good music for being good music, regardless of whether it’s adventurous or a huge change in sound?
I definitely understand where you’re coming from but I feel it’s unrealistic to expect him to change and it’s annoying when the actual music is good (I believe) but people s*** on it because “he’s done this before”.
Edit: Also, the notion that success can be something devoid of quality is laughable to me. You don’t become this wildly successful for so long if you lack quality.
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyFreight
I think the beef really impacted donda because it seems ye was using it to try to derail Drake’s release.
But if you were unaware of the beef before listening to CLB I’m not sure you’d come out the other side thinking Drake was in some big beef
I’m not talking about the content on CLB being affected, more so the way fans are picking sides and s***ting on one of the albums
Sep 4, 2021Stantm4444CLB is objectively bad, dog.
I wish people would stop using the phrase “objectively bad/good.” There’s no such thing as critiquing a piece of art “objectively.”
Certified Lover Boy is a Drake album. That’s an “objective” fact.
“I don’t like this album,” is an opinion.
You can state the objective qualities of the album all you want, but the conclusion is inherently subjective. Your opinion of the album’s objective qualities are just that: an opinion.
The album wasn’t for you, and that’s okay.
Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuserit's a negative because we've been having this conversation since 2016 and its getting to the point where Drake really doesn't have THAT defining classic genre shifting album. A Blueprint, A Graduation, A GKMC. All Eyez on Me, Aquemini, etc. an album that unarguably is in the classic category of rap albums
he has the Take Care - NWTS - IYRTITL run which was great but none of those are THAT album
and that's why people have the reaction they do...we've been waiting since Views for THAT album and he keeps stat padding which is good for him but that's why people even have these conversations about Drake...is it the quality or the success?
an album that unarguably is in the classic category of rap albums
So Drake basically has to have an unarguable classic RAP album, when niggas have always given him s*** for the stuff that made him DRAKE in the first place (the rnb, the pop, etc) ?
Do you not see how what you're expecting is basically contradicting itself?
Like why you think hip hop heads hated him from the jump? Even wayne didn't like the singing at first when he was first played drakes music by j prince son.
Sep 4, 2021I could agree with this take on Scrop but can't stamp it on this one at all
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyHalloween Gang
I’m not talking about the content on CLB being affected, more so the way fans are picking sides and s***ting on one of the albums
I mean that was gonna happen regardless. The stan wars on here have been going on long before the beef. But yeah it definitely ratcheted it up
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuser
it's a negative because we've been having this conversation since 2016 and its getting to the point where Drake really doesn't have THAT defining classic genre shifting album. A Blueprint, A Graduation, A GKMC. All Eyez on Me, Aquemini, etc. an album that unarguably is in the classic category of rap albums
he has the Take Care - NWTS - IYRTITL run which was great but none of those are THAT album
and that's why people have the reaction they do...we've been waiting since Views for THAT album and he keeps stat padding which is good for him but that's why people even have these conversations about Drake...is it the quality or the success?
Take Care is that album and everyone knows it
10 year anniversary is gonna be a movie on social media for this exact fact
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyFreight
I mean that was gonna happen regardless. The stan wars on here have been going on long before the beef. But yeah it definitely ratcheted it up
I don’t think it would’ve been anywhere near as intense if they didn’t drop their albums within a week of each other and there weren’t the antics in the lead up. I almost wish Drake waited a couple months and let Ye have his moment.
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replySkateboard J
an album that unarguably is in the classic category of rap albums
So Drake basically has to have an unarguable classic RAP album, when niggas have always given him s*** for the stuff that made him DRAKE in the first place (the rnb, the pop, etc) ?
Do you not see how what you're expecting is basically contradicting itself?
Like why you think hip hop heads hated him from the jump? Even wayne didn't like the singing at first when he was first played drakes music by j prince son.
Semantics. Outkast, Kendrick and Kanye albums feature singing that's not the issue
- Sep 4, 2021·2 repliesHalloween Gang
Why is it so important to hear Drake take a more “mature” approach or throw caution to the wind at this point in his career? He’s already the most versatile hip-hop star by a mile and yet people want him to do more? Why can’t we just celebrate good music for being good music, regardless of whether it’s adventurous or a huge change in sound?
I definitely understand where you’re coming from but I feel it’s unrealistic to expect him to change and it’s annoying when the actual music is good (I believe) but people s*** on it because “he’s done this before”.
Edit: Also, the notion that success can be something devoid of quality is laughable to me. You don’t become this wildly successful for so long if you lack quality.
People just want something other than OS updates to Views lol
Calling him the most versatile hip hop artist is wild when you have people like Kendrick who switch their sound every album. And IDK if I'd even give that title to Kendrick off rip
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuser
Semantics. Outkast, Kendrick and Kanye albums feature singing that's not the issue
Did any of them have that on their breakout projects or did they do it later on in their careers?
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replySkateboard J
Did any of them have that on their breakout projects or did they do it later on in their careers?
We wasn't supposed to make it past twenty fiiiiiive - Ye's debut album intro lol
I haven't listened to Southernplayalistic in a while but ATLiens was their second album...."me and you, yo mama and yo cousins too"
I don't get the point you were tryna make here. Drake above this convo because he's always sung which means he gets a pass?
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuser
People just want something other than OS updates to Views lol
Calling him the most versatile hip hop artist is wild when you have people like Kendrick who switch their sound every album. And IDK if I'd even give that title to Kendrick off rip
Who else is barring out on songs like 7am on bridle path then making club bangers then making songs that border on ballads then making smooth rnb then making dancehall then blending a bunch of s*** together?
Kendrick is more diverse in his production, vocal inflection and themes but he can’t do half of the things mentioned above
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuser
People just want something other than OS updates to Views lol
Calling him the most versatile hip hop artist is wild when you have people like Kendrick who switch their sound every album. And IDK if I'd even give that title to Kendrick off rip
Kendrick doesn’t really change his sound though
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyquadra
Take Care is that album and everyone knows it
10 year anniversary is gonna be a movie on social media for this exact fact
I won't argue against it bc personally I think I feel the same sometimes but it didn't feel like that in real time it was just a great album. Especially compared to how hard GKMC hit a year later in terms of 'classic' convos. We all can remember the difference in how they were received
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuser
I won't argue against it bc personally I think I feel the same sometimes but it didn't feel like that in real time it was just a great album. Especially compared to how hard GKMC hit a year later in terms of 'classic' convos. We all can remember the difference in how they were received
Take care had a much bigger impact
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyHtownwolf
Kendrick doesn’t really change his sound though
I can see both sides of it
He's always gonna give you the weird voices and s*** but GKMC type beat is not the same as a TPAB type beat; and same for TPAB > DAMN
The same way you can say that for College Dropout > LR > Grad > 808s
As someone who saw that trait of growth from Comeback Season > SFG > TML and arguably up until IYRTITL it got to a point where you could no longer say that bout Drake albums sometime around Views and beyond
- Sep 4, 2021Htownwolf
Take care had a much bigger impact
Not debating that, it put kendrick in the mainstream arguably with that interlude
first time I saw kendrick and rocky was club paradise tour that was def a fire era for sure
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyHalloween Gang
Who else is barring out on songs like 7am on bridle path then making club bangers then making songs that border on ballads then making smooth rnb then making dancehall then blending a bunch of s*** together?
Kendrick is more diverse in his production, vocal inflection and themes but he can’t do half of the things mentioned above
I knew the tropical s*** would come up and Kendrick has songs like that on Black Panther soundtrack which shows he can if he wanted to dive into that bag
"ballad"
Songs like The Heart are pretty much his equivalent of the time/place tracks
Drake can't make TPAB type songs though lol
- Sep 4, 2021·edited·1 replyuser
We wasn't supposed to make it past twenty fiiiiiive - Ye's debut album intro lol
I haven't listened to Southernplayalistic in a while but ATLiens was their second album...."me and you, yo mama and yo cousins too"
I don't get the point you were tryna make here. Drake above this convo because he's always sung which means he gets a pass?
Huh? They're singing the hooks on those songs and rapping the rest. That's not what I'm talking about. None of the guys you mentioned came out the gate with songs like Houstonatlantavegas, Sooner than later, Brand new, etc on their breakout projects.
The point here is that you say Drake needs an "unarguable classic" like GKMC, The Blueprint, etc
Yet how are you supposed to have an "unarguable classic" when songs like your pop songs and rnb songs are automatically going to be hated by the same people who talking about all those other rap albums you mentioned. You can't.
