Sep 4, 2021userI can see both sides of it
He's always gonna give you the weird voices and s*** but GKMC type beat is not the same as a TPAB type beat; and same for TPAB > DAMN
The same way you can say that for College Dropout > LR > Grad > 808s
As someone who saw that trait of growth from Comeback Season > SFG > TML and arguably up until IYRTITL it got to a point where you could no longer say that bout Drake albums sometime around Views and beyond
He changed his subject matter for tpab I guess but its almost similar to section 80 content wise
- Sep 4, 2021·1 reply
Skateboard J· editedHuh? They're singing the hooks on those songs and rapping the rest. That's not what I'm talking about. None of the guys you mentioned came out the gate with songs like Houstonatlantavegas, Sooner than later, Brand new, etc on their breakout projects.
The point here is that you say Drake needs an "unarguable classic" like GKMC, The Blueprint, etc
Yet how are you supposed to have an "unarguable classic" when songs like your pop songs and rnb songs are automatically going to be hated by the same people who talking about all those other rap albums you mentioned. You can't.
yeah i mean those solely pop rnb songs aside from a few gems are mostly included for radio success which is the whole point here
he's afraid of having an album not be all over the radio and break all types of records which IMO has hindered his creativity since Views broke all those records
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuser
yeah i mean those solely pop rnb songs aside from a few gems are mostly included for radio success which is the whole point here
he's afraid of having an album not be all over the radio and break all types of records which IMO has hindered his creativity since Views broke all those records
Not sure what this has to do with what we was talking bout but ok.
Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuserit's a negative because we've been having this conversation since 2016 and its getting to the point where Drake really doesn't have THAT defining classic genre shifting album. A Blueprint, A Graduation, A GKMC. All Eyez on Me, Aquemini, etc. an album that unarguably is in the classic category of rap albums
he has the Take Care - NWTS - IYRTITL run which was great but none of those are THAT album
and that's why people have the reaction they do...we've been waiting since Views for THAT album and he keeps stat padding which is good for him but that's why people even have these conversations about Drake...is it the quality or the success?
Your expectations are too high bro not everyone can create a “genre shifting” album
I personally enjoy listening to nwts over all of those albums anyway so why does it really matter or would it be considered a negative if drakes fans love it
Sep 4, 2021·1 replyuserI knew the tropical s*** would come up and Kendrick has songs like that on Black Panther soundtrack which shows he can if he wanted to dive into that bag
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mloFSwGgACQ"ballad"
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7RsX1Ee34Songs like The Heart are pretty much his equivalent of the time/place tracks
Drake can't make TPAB type songs though lol
He’s not doing it anywhere near the level drake is it anywhere near as consistently
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replycalzone jones
Your expectations are too high bro not everyone can create a “genre shifting” album
I personally enjoy listening to nwts over all of those albums anyway so why does it really matter or would it be considered a negative if drakes fans love it
And the genre has shifted already because of Drake. So many younger artists cite him as an influence. He’s a big reason why melody and vulnerability are pillars of new age rap
Sep 4, 2021HtownwolfDrake albums always have bad user reviews. You have to remember OP that drake has a dedicated haterbase. Some people have an unhealthy hate obsession with dude its mad weird
this 100%.
Its the weirdest thing ever.
It's a trend at this point.
- Sep 4, 2021
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- Sep 4, 2021Htownwolf
Drake albums always have bad user reviews. You have to remember OP that drake has a dedicated haterbase. Some people have an unhealthy hate obsession with dude its mad weird
Facts. I remember being on wshh before i even knew what ktt was arguing with drake haters in the comments calling 5am trash
. These people will let no drake praise prosper 
Sep 4, 2021Halloween GangI don’t think it would’ve been anywhere near as intense if they didn’t drop their albums within a week of each other and there weren’t the antics in the lead up. I almost wish Drake waited a couple months and let Ye have his moment.
Why? Kanye’s the one that was intentionally stepping on Drake’s release. He’s done this for Scorpion and CLB now
Sep 4, 2021petty boys vs pretty boys
Sep 4, 2021I felt both projects were quite underwhelming, unfortunately…
Sep 4, 2021nope. the beef didn’t do s*** lmao. drake has artistically peaked, it is what it is.
Sep 4, 2021He really went at him literally 3 bars into the album
Sep 4, 2021Listen I was a huge Drake stan from the beginning up to Views. Someone put it perfect saying there was growth from Room for Improvement all the way to IYRTITL and the Meek derailed him heavy that I think him doing Pop music was a safety net. Hotline Bling literally changed his whole career and he followed that sound (Hotline Bling GOAT) but after that he chased after being Viral making playlists instead of bodies of work. That’s why a lot of us are mad about his discography starting from Views.
This is the 3rd album f***ed with by a beef. Maybe he thrives off s*** like this but it always ruins his headspace.
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replySkateboard J
Not sure what this has to do with what we was talking bout but ok.
You made it seem like he had to do those pop rnb records lol
- Sep 4, 2021·1 replyHalloween Gang
And the genre has shifted already because of Drake. So many younger artists cite him as an influence. He’s a big reason why melody and vulnerability are pillars of new age rap
So is it 808s or Drake lol
- Sep 4, 2021Halloween Gang
He’s not doing it anywhere near the level drake is it anywhere near as consistently
Yeah because it would get old hence you having to make this thread about Drake and not Kendrick lol
- Sep 4, 2021user
You made it seem like he had to do those pop rnb records lol
You kinda changing the subject dog. I really don’t care.
- Sep 4, 2021
CLB hard as bricks. Metacritic stay mid
- Sep 4, 2021user
So is it 808s or Drake lol
Both. 808s started it but drake definitely made it cool and mainstream
- Sep 4, 2021
“Drake really doesn't have THAT defining classic“
He has like 6 of them
