He’s a producer, so he’s held at a different standard than a rapper that started as one from the ground up.
It’s the same reason why the Chronic is considered a classic even though Dre probably didn’t write any of it.
If Hov had writer camps for blueprint, people would still considered it a classic because it's good music. That wouldn't mean he's not talented because he's the one performing the songs and putting them together
Saweetie had one of the biggest studios in LA booked for a year with writers in there 24/7 to drop a flop, this aint news
so what?
end result still the same. Cardi’s voice makes songs pop. that’s her talent.
So a rapper not being part of the creative process and simply showing up and doing a song that’s already made for them is talent?
So a rapper not being part of the creative process and simply showing up and doing a song that’s already made for them is talent?
every artist does this, including Rihanna and Beyonce. And every single one of them white artists.
Hip Hop is the only genre that cares about writers. Who cares. If the music is dope. Who f***ing cares
Hip Hop is the only genre that cares about writers. Who cares. If the music is dope. Who f***ing cares
is this also why it became corny to rap about how good you can rap?
lmao rap fans after like 2007 are hilarious
If Hov had writer camps for blueprint, people would still considered it a classic because it's good music. That wouldn't mean he's not talented because he's the one performing the songs and putting them together
If Jay Z had writer camps he wouldn’t be considered one of greatest rappers of all time, his peers would’ve clowned him for years if he had 10+ writers anytime he made a song.
You keep mentioning music when I’m simply talking about talent.
The music can be good but if you had no hand in the creative process then are you even an artist at this point?
Even Kendrick got writers bruh ain’t no major label letting an artist write their own music
Cap
So a rapper not being part of the creative process and simply showing up and doing a song that’s already made for them is talent?
it’s really strange you think performing a record in your voice isn’t by itself a huge part of the creative process.
it’s maybe the biggest part?
do you feel the same way about actors?
writers write. performers perform. some ppl do both. some lean one way or the other. regardless, everyone’s important.
Ehh not really
I mean look at who the site is named after
Wildest thing is how the more writers the worse lyrically his songs are
every artist does this, including Rihanna and Beyonce. And every single one of them white artists.
The difference is that THEY CAN SING.
They are SINGERS, their whole style is not based of writing.
Rap is lyrics-based and focuses on WRITING Rhymes.
I get pop stars have a room full of writers for their songs
But if your a rapper and you have 10+ writers writing your songs then at that point you have no talent.
Kanye and Drake broke down barriers
is this also why it became corny to rap about how good you can rap?
lmao rap fans after like 2007 are hilarious
I’ve been a rap fan before 2007. I’m just not going to lose sleep if a dope verse was written by somebody else. Name Eminem’s best verse, if we found out it wasn’t written by him, it doesn’t take anything away from the music or the verse. It was still dope.
being nonchalant about artists having ghostwriters is depressing and crazy, especially for rap
all this s*** fake
I get pop stars have a room full of writers for their songs
But if your a rapper and you have 10+ writers writing your songs then at that point you have no talent.
They had to gather 10 writers in a room to produce these lyrics
Tie me up like I'm surprised
Let's role-play, I wear a disguise
I want you to park that big Mack truck right in this little garage
Make it cream, make me scream
Out in public, make a scene
I don't cook, I don't clean
But let me tell you, I got this ring
Wonder what the process was like 😳
If Hov had writer camps for blueprint, people would still considered it a classic because it's good music. That wouldn't mean he's not talented because he's the one performing the songs and putting them together
nah blueprint is great but if he had help it wouldn't be as great.
takeover alone would've been clowned to hell..imagine dissing a nigga about skill and you got help writing
don’t even call these niggas artists call them bands since they got 30+ people making the song
lmao and niggas be hopping on Beyoncé’s tip for locking in with 2-3 writers max
hilarious
If Jay Z had writer camps he wouldn’t be considered one of greatest rappers of all time, his peers would’ve clowned him for years if he had 10+ writers anytime he made a song.
You keep mentioning music when I’m simply talking about talent.
The music can be good but if you had no hand in the creative process then are you even an artist at this point?
You keep skipping this part bro
"That wouldn't mean he's not talented because he's the one performing the songs and putting them together"
The creative process includes the recording and the overall arranging of the song, that in itself is talent