Aug 12, 2023·1 replyI think what people don’t understand is that
Selling the music being able to sell music, tickets etc means way more than writing the song
It’s the music business. The (sad) reality is that the only thing that matters is being able to sell the record
Cardi b can sell the record. If you can write it yourself, great! But it’s never really mattered at the highest of levels.
Also, people who can write their own songs also have writing camps simply because 1) labels are getting records from writers and producers for their artists all the time and 2) it’s simply easier to churn out records at a prolific rate if you have songs / references to work from
Aug 12, 2023
yungcartierThe difference is that THEY CAN SING.
They are SINGERS, their whole style is not based of writing.
Rap is lyrics-based and focuses on WRITING Rhymes.
Cardi is a pop star, she needs hits, ofc she gon bring in writers to make her catchy songs that have hit potential. This aint Wu-Tang nigga, lower your expectations. And is it confirmed that these writers are writing her verses? Or just coming up with hooks/melodies for her?
Aug 12, 2023yungcartierHe’s a producer, so he’s held at a different standard than a rapper that started as one from the ground up.
It’s the same reason why the Chronic is considered a classic even though Dre probably didn’t write any of it.
Only thing that gets me is how you’re able to make songs like Heard em say in 15 minutes, all falls down in one session and now struggle to even finish a song. Maybe his mental health has something to do with it
Aug 12, 2023
X7JQ9L2MF4A8Zlmao and niggas be hopping on Beyoncé’s tip for locking in with 2-3 writers max
hilarious
Same for Drake, he might have assistants but nincompoops acting like he never ever writes his own music
- Aug 12, 2023BrickellBayside
I think what people don’t understand is that
Selling the music being able to sell music, tickets etc means way more than writing the song
It’s the music business. The (sad) reality is that the only thing that matters is being able to sell the record
Cardi b can sell the record. If you can write it yourself, great! But it’s never really mattered at the highest of levels.
Also, people who can write their own songs also have writing camps simply because 1) labels are getting records from writers and producers for their artists all the time and 2) it’s simply easier to churn out records at a prolific rate if you have songs / references to work from
Facts, even the best writers like The Dream had a cap they could reach as the featured artist
Aug 12, 2023·1 replySince everybody nowadays has writers and it’s no biggie then I don’t want to hear s*** about Ice Spice being a top 50 NY rapper of all time
Aug 12, 2023·1 replyI remember when having a skilled pen was respected and what rappers wanted to have.
- Aug 12, 2023
This is the music business
Selling songs is a talent. Being able to sell the songs matters
It’s not some fly on the wall tidbit, it’s the entire thing
That’s why writers can write the songs…but have to sell them / give them to their labels and managers because they can’t do s*** with them
- Aug 12, 2023Smacked Voodoo
I remember when having a skilled pen was respected and what rappers wanted to have.
this ^
like wtf this s*** corny now
- Aug 12, 2023
dapagodit’s really strange you think performing a record in your voice isn’t by itself a huge part of the creative process.
it’s maybe the biggest part?
do you feel the same way about actors?
writers write. performers perform. some ppl do both. some lean one way or the other. regardless, everyone’s important.
Actors do months of preparation for a role to play a character that’s not a reflection of them in real life.
Most rappers just go in the booth and record, it’s the reason why rappers can churn out 100+ songs compared to other artists.
Aug 12, 2023armchair music industry experts itt
Aug 12, 2023FrogSpawnyo i'm embarrassed to say this but what song is that from again?
- Aug 12, 2023bandslabands
They had to gather 10 writers in a room to produce these lyrics
Tie me up like I'm surprised
Let's role-play, I wear a disguise
I want you to park that big Mack truck right in this little garage
Make it cream, make me scream
Out in public, make a scene
I don't cook, I don't clean
But let me tell you, I got this ringWonder what the process was like 😳
this is the most embarrassing part of it all
imagine having a plethora of people to songwrite for you, and this is the end result of several hands crafting a verse
Aug 12, 2023onetwoSince everybody nowadays has writers and it’s no biggie then I don’t want to hear s*** about Ice Spice being a top 50 NY rapper of all time
Ice Spice is not a top 50 NY rapper. Can’t believe y’all defend Complex payola lists
