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  • Sep 1, 2020
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    Noir

    94% of those who died while being infected with COVID-19 had an underlying condition.

    How does this in any way contradict what we've been told from the beginning of the pandemic? COVID-19 is most harmful to the elderly and those with underlying conditions.

    The question we all have to ask ourselves in terms of personal risk is whether or not you have an underlying condition. Are you completely sure? When was the last time you even went to a doctor? A ton of people who died found out along the way that they had a heart defect.

    And none of that accounts for the risk we could pose to others who may not be sure of their own risk level.

    Don't be stupid. Take care of yourselves.

    No, the title of the article is bullshit. The guy who wrote it doesn't understand scientific data.

    94% of those who died of covid had other problems listed in their chart at the time of their death, such as "respiratory failure" "ARDS" and Pneumonia"

    I'm honestly surprised it wasn't 100%, sounds like poor charting in 6% of patients to me tbh

  • Sep 1, 2020
    str8dollaz

    No, the title of the article is bullshit. The guy who wrote it doesn't understand scientific data.

    94% of those who died of covid had other problems listed in their chart at the time of their death, such as "respiratory failure" "ARDS" and Pneumonia"

    I'm honestly surprised it wasn't 100%, sounds like poor charting in 6% of patients to me tbh

    i wonder what the author is thinking the other 6% died from

  • Sep 1, 2020
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    soapmanwun

  • Sep 1, 2020
    Eminem

    ⚠️ WARNING: The article linked to in this post has been confirmed by a licensed medical professional as misleading

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    David Bondy, the author of this story, is a local news anchor for Michigan-based FOX and NBC affiliates. His interpration of the CDC data shows a dangerous lack of understanding of basic medical information and should not be taken seriously.

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    Quote from medical professional:COVID is the cause of these comorbidities [...] Covid is what is CAUSING the respiratory failure, the ARDS, the pneumonia, etc.

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    In short, the claim that 94% of deaths are patients with underlying medical condition is completely false.

    Original Post:

    NOTE: I'm not saying that COVID-19 isn't bad. But it's definitely not as deadly as we once thought, especially for regular healthy individuals. That being said...Wear ur f\*\*\*ing masks and stay healthy y'all <3

    Source: https://nbc25news.com/news/local/cdc-94-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions

    Why is the media so f***ing misleading bruh

  • Sep 1, 2020
    soapmanwun

  • Sep 1, 2020
    Puma

    Crine

  • Sep 1, 2020

    High key fw the site for changing the title, and original post.
    🖕🏾 misinformation.

  • RASIE 🎣
    Sep 1, 2020
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    Quote from medical professional: “COVID is the cause of these comorbidities ... Covid is what is CAUSING the respiratory failure, the ARDS, the pneumonia, etc.”

    Why hasn't this part of OP been updated/corrected yet?

    We shouldn't be correcting false information with different false information.

  • Sep 1, 2020
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    RASIE

    Quote from medical professional: “COVID is the cause of these comorbidities ... Covid is what is CAUSING the respiratory failure, the ARDS, the pneumonia, etc.”

    Why hasn't this part of OP been updated/corrected yet?

    We shouldn't be correcting false information with different false information.

    Covid is what is causing the ARDS, respiratory failure, pneumonia. the article linked is stating that these are underlying health conditions that the patient have prior to them getting covid, which is completely false

  • RASIE 🎣
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    tbw

    Covid is what is causing the ARDS, respiratory failure, pneumonia. the article linked is stating that these are underlying health conditions that the patient have prior to them getting covid, which is completely false

    That's literally not what that article is saying.

    The article is false because it claims that the comorbidities in CDC's dataset are being listed as causes on death certificates alongside COVID-19 — as in "cause of death: COVID, diabetes, and hypertension."

    It's also false because the language used makes it sound like hundreds of 20 year olds would've died in the past 3 months from obesity alone — that is to say, they make it appear as if underlying conditions are the primary causes, rather than it just being a dataset of how COVID potentially interacts with many different conditions.

    The correction in OP is false because it's saying COVID — nothing else — is causing l the comorbidities. The reason the correction looks remotely true at first glance is because it only mentions a select few comorbidities that are also symptomatic of COVID (even that bullshit article at least mentions others), which ignores the other conditions on the chart that are also responsible for those same symptoms, which is a primary reason why comorbidity data sets like that one are even a thing.

    COPD, asthma, sepsis, lung cancer, spinal and brain injuries, stroke, immunodeficiencies, d*** abuse, and genetic history all cause respiratory failure/ARDS/pneumonia as well, and we don't know how C-19 specifically interacts (or doesn't) with a ton of other conditions and medication on top of that.

    (And to the person who gave that "correction" info: This is nothing against you personally or anything of the sort. I've personally known two people who were hospitalized with C-19 in the past month and one of them died. And we very recently found out my husband is in a severe risk 2.0+ comorbidity group and he works at a hospital every day for 12 hours. So seeing false info being corrected with false info is something I'm taking a lot more seriously than I probably would've in March or something.)

    Long story short: Look at the what is the CDC actually says about COVID deaths and comorbidities (linked above) and how neither the article or the OP correction are aligned with it.

    You wanna know what that comorbidities chart is for? It's not for showing which deaths C-19 is a primary factor in. It's not a list made to show you what things C-19 causes. And it's not a list of all the conditions that are included on C-19 death certificates.

    It's just a dataset that helps the CDC determine and tell people this stuff for prevention awareness and better treatment.

  • Sep 1, 2020
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    frenchpress

    wym

    All the post does it quote somebody else that person is more comfortable interpreting.

  • Sep 1, 2020
    NakedBalenciaga

    Some really believe It’s a hoax

    10,000 people apparently protested in London about it being a hoax the other day smh

  • Sep 1, 2020
    OUT OF ORDER

    By absolutely destroying small businesses and further solidifying the amazon/walmart/corporate billionaire empires

    By nearly doubling the suicide rate and crippling the mental health of the world's population for years to come

    By f***ing over normal everyday people who are going bankrupt, can't pay rent, can't feed their kids because they're not even allowed to work

    I could go on

    The freak-out over the virus in the beginning was understandable but after finding out there's a 99.8% survival rate, all this other s*** is just plain unnecessary

    Dunno where youre geting that 99.8% figure from? A quick google says 6mil cases in the US and 180k deaths which is only a 97% survival rate.

    Granted case numbers are understated, but there would need to be 12mil undocumented for your figure to be right

  • Sep 1, 2020
    Squilliam

    My friend just sent me this on IG smfh so many idiots in this world

    People think they’re WAY smarter than everyone else for believing in a conspiracy theory, when in reality they’re the ones with their heads in the sand

    This is literally all there is behind a lot of conspiracy theories really, a s*** attempt at intellectual arrogance.

  • Sep 1, 2020
    OUT OF ORDER

    By absolutely destroying small businesses and further solidifying the amazon/walmart/corporate billionaire empires

    By nearly doubling the suicide rate and crippling the mental health of the world's population for years to come

    By f***ing over normal everyday people who are going bankrupt, can't pay rent, can't feed their kids because they're not even allowed to work

    I could go on

    The freak-out over the virus in the beginning was understandable but after finding out there's a 99.8% survival rate, all this other s*** is just plain unnecessary

    📠

  • RASIE 🎣
    Sep 1, 2020
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    Stan Smith

    All the post does it quote somebody else that person is more comfortable interpreting.

    It's a lot worse than just superficial preferred resource posturing.

    This thread has 6 pages of replies, and the correction in OP has a bolded statement that's demonstrably false being purported as true.

    There's now a number of people who have read the OP correction and saw the other users repeating it (like the person replying to me above), and they might feel inclined to dismiss anything mentioning comorbidities because of it. Or they might go to another site or social media platform and see people talking about that false article (or similar ones), and repeat the false correction.

    It results in exchanges like this:

    "Well people with these underlying condition need to be extra caref—"

    "Skrrrt! First of all, COVID is causing the underlying conditions so take your conspiracy fox news bullshit somewhere else!"

    It's dangerous.

  • Sep 1, 2020
    DoubleStandard

    I mean, I’m out every single day, around tons of people, I literally don’t know 1 person who has Covid

    I might be in the minority though on that

    This is awful logic bro and just doesnt mean anything at all.

    Personally I don’t directly know anyone who’s had a heart attack, but i don’t then make the jump to “heart attacks arent real” or “heart disease isnt as serious as people say it is”

  • Sep 1, 2020
    OUT OF ORDER

    Basically my thoughts too

    I’ll wear a mask if it makes other people feel comfortable, but we didn’t need to destroy small businesses and the mental health of our country in order to protect the tiny percent of the population who this virus is deadly towards

    If you’re young and healthy then you really have nothing to worry about

    Everybody wants to talk about the amount of new cases or amount of total deaths, but no one wants to talk about the 98% survival rate

    Unbelievably youve already dropped the survival rate from 99.8% to 98% in the course of two posts

  • Sep 1, 2020
    OUT OF ORDER

    Meant to say 98%

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

    So 2% (6 mil) people, could potentially die If the whole country was infected, and you dont see a problem with that.

    Cos of your bs “young healthy people having nothing to fear” line? At this point you’re wilfully ignorant if you havent read multiple articles about young healthy people dying / ending up in ICU as a result of covid (and yes im aware that young healthy people generally have a lot less to fear)

  • Sep 1, 2020
    OUT OF ORDER

    Obviously there have been some young people affected by it, I’m not saying those situations don’t exist I’m just saying it’s an exponentially smaller percentage compared to old people

    Stop straw-manning me froggy I thought we were boys

    I know like two dozen people in my age group that have gotten it and they just brushed it off. With the way the news is reporting about covid, you’d think it’s the modern bubonic plague and expect there to be giant piles of dead bodies stacked in the streets

    You said young people “have nothing to fear” - noone is straw manning you we are literally just taking what you say at face value

  • Sep 1, 2020
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    Did this guy quote me 5 separate times

  • Sep 1, 2020
    OUT OF ORDER

    Did this guy quote me 5 separate times

    5 separate bits of misinformation

  • Sep 1, 2020
    Puma

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