and i get that but there has to be a better way to go about this than just completely shutting down our economy

i work on the front lines....i literally work with covid patients 🙄

Are you paying them to give you the virus? Its the same principle as cigs and fast food right?

man im just paranoid
i hate to be "that guy" but i think there are ppl in our government that know more than they're letting on

I think that’s a valid point now, but i don’t think it was unwarranted at the start of the period when there was a lot of uncertainty and a possibility that the death rate was higher than its turned out to be - in the UK we had about 3 months of total lockdown and have gradually reopened most businesses and im happy with that tbh

... Duh?

no they're paying me NOT S*** to get this virus while everyone else is sitting at home gettin paid twice as much as me

but i stand by it. i do not believe this virus was as bad as they originally told us....

although if you're older + compromised immune system ....then yeah its a death wish.... 100%

In what sense??

are yall back to normal in the UK?

From a shops / restaurants / businesses perspective not far off it in the sense that everything is open and providing near enough normal service (albeit with various new rules and precautions in place).

In terms of workplaces no, a lot of people are still wfh.

Whats it like where youre at?

trump saying he doesnt give af about a mask
encouraging others not to do so
contradicting messages from the CDC
WHO getting exposed multiple times
hospitals skewing numbers to get more funding

i mean maybe this is just what happens when capitalism meets safety

EDIT: f***! i spelled your name wrong 😒

Its all very weird isnt it, altho at this point Trump just seems to take any stance he can that will play to his base lol.

Speaking of numbers is interesting. In the UK its a f***ing shambles - they've had to revise down the figures cos it was counting any death occurring in anyone who’d had a positive test (so if I tested positive in February and fell of a cliff six months later i’d be a covid death). They’ve now changed it but it’s still any death for any reason occurring within 28 days of a positive test smh.

Just giving ammo to the “covid isnt real crowd” imo, a really stupid decision

wheres our blue heart medals

The "any death for any reason" stuff is just to gather more data. The more data you have on it, the more opportunities to find patterns. The more patterns, the better chance of them providing more concrete feedback on risk, prevention, and treatment.

Nobody is actually saying if someone with COVID trips and hits their head on a rock and dies that COVID is responsible. Just like the CDC has the intentional injury/self-harm deaths in their comorbidity data.

It's just when people don't understand the value of data and its necessity to respond to something like this, then you get tiktok videos of random hospital workers going viral where they're saying "omg this official letter came to us saying that if anybody who dies from anything also has COVID, we HAVE to mark it down as COVID! What the f*** is going on???"

Of course it seems like some massive plot when dumb people are wylin out like that on social media platforms filled with nothing but teenagers and other dumb people who hop on ANYTHING that has a drop of juice in it.

it’s the same people who say to “not live in fear and take off the mask” who also stash a bunch of guns in their house just because. The irony

what does our blue heart badges have to do with politics

we're still on the front f***ing line my dude

like in an hour and a half i will be putting my scrubs and driving to the VA to do an 8 hour s***

GIMME MY BADGE SO I CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT MY S***TY JOB !

I don’t believe it’s a plot at all, but framing it in the way our media has done gives weight to that theory for the conspiracists.

Definitely appreciate the need for data gathering, the problem is the reporting has just been “there are 30,000 covid deaths” without giving the context.

So we are now in a situation where the figures were revised down by more then 10% (5,000) and the new calculations are still caveated in that someone who got covid, recovered, and then is hit by a bus could be marked down as a covid death.

Perhaps it’s unavoidable, but i do think it’s a dangerous situation because you’re just fuelling the fire of those who want to believe its all bs

google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-53722711

“It seemed very odd when we learned last month that PHE's figures included everyone who had tested positive, even if they died months afterwards and their death may have had another cause.
”

hospitals skewing numbers to get more funding

This was proven to be cap iirc