his daddy is the drummer for Tortoise

amazing chune

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Laufey part of this? Cause I'm not mad since she actually has talent.

when s*** hits the fan is you still a fan

chill on nate bro

the sweet sounds of sodomy

only respectable thing about him is that he was influenced by Hannah Diamond lol

yeah if you’ve been online enough you can see these narratives shape in real time on some stuff

16:40

INTERVIEWER: What would you say to someone who's like, “I'm freaked out by the fact that there's so much going on online that I don't know about.” How do you guys feel about those [people] who might hear about this kind of campaign and just be like, “What? Are you manipulating my feed?”

COREN: Unfortunately, a lot of the internet is manipulation. And I think Andrew Spelman would always say that everything on the internet is fake. One thing that we always say is [that] all opinions are formed in the TikTok comments. Which is a reminder to us that we can help. [grinning] And I don’t know if this will make anyone feel better, but a lot of what we do on the narrative side will be, you know, controlling the discourse. I think most people see a video or see something about an album that came out. And it's like the first thing that they see, or that first comment that they see, is their opinion even when they haven't heard the whole album. Um, so it's really important for us to make sure that we are ahead of it and controlling that narrative and making sure it's in the direction that we want.

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I think it’s telling how the interviewer is clearly asking from the perspective of a music listener rather than an artist/label, but Coren chooses to address his answer towards the industry regardless, reassuring them that he's here to help them control the narrative in their favour. There’s not any way you can spin this positively to consumers and he knows it.

if he doesn't think he can spin it positively, why tf did they delete the narrative page

unreal images running thru my head as chaotic good projects employees are browsing this thread at work

Groomable people

18:00

SPELMAN: What we do at Chaotic Good with our management clients is, the second [their SNL performance] drops at midnight, you should post 100 times saying that was the best performance of the year. […] Organically some people will post “That was amazing,” or “That was terrible”. So, all we do at Chaotic Good is look what happens organically, and then do it inorganically at scale. When someone announces a tour, for example, as managers, that's the biggest day of the year, [when] the tour goes on sale. That is where the majority of your revenue will come from. And these days, it's crazy to us that artists will just post a static flyer on Instagram. If you have the infrastructure in place, like when we started to do this, the moment the tour goes on sale, you should post 100 times across many TikTok accounts driving it, pushing narratives, talking about how great they are live. And so, it does get overwhelming, because I don't think the pendulum is swinging back anytime soon. I think what we're seeing is things get more and more extreme.

COREN: It's more and more of why I think we exist, and why we feel so passionate about what we do. You know, a lot of the things that we've set out to solve through the agency are the pain points that we felt as managers. Like Andrew [Spelman] said, that first tour-announced day, I wish[ed] we could do more. You know, we were relying on the promoters and their standard ad budgets across all the different shows that they were doing. It just felt like – and it's happening more and more now – is “How do you cut through?” And the only way to really do that is the infrastructure. And most companies and artists and managers just can't do that at the scale that we do.

INTERVIEWER: So it's basically like fighting the fact that there is so much volume happening, just in general. The internet is so noisy that you kind of have to fight volume with more volume.

COREN: Quality and volume.

SPELMAN: Quality’s important, but I view it as an arms race. You know, one artist hires us and we run 20 pages for them. Someone else will do 25. And for the right artist at the right time, I think it’s the right strategy. So I don't think it's going to swing back for a long time.

Basically admitting that the whole digital marketing industry is a cancer cell endlessly spreading more and more information pollution algorithm slop onto people's feeds until all human knowledge is drowned out by ads. Destroying the internet forever to get some indie sleaze nepobaby an extra 10k streams. Pieces of s***

Why would you hire a manager with no connects

Not shocked in the slightest. It’s all a ploy to game the system

If the music's good I don't really care but this does vindicate some suspicions I had

we need to know how much they pay Big Business on twitter

Dave was working at a computer store managing Dot

he literally used his regular job to play Kendrick’s music and get a deal with Top cause he happened to be fixing his computer one day lmao. dudes gotta stop tryna fight for industry connects like niggas can’t build authentically from the ground up

Fakemink #iknewit

Geese was getting posted on every "Average Bushwick Male Manipulator" meme for a full year of course it was payola

chaotic good

that’s how they sold AI to Boomers LMFAO. how much money do you have to be making to finally say f*** it, here’s the formula. I guess bots and AI are already here and generating money as “viewers” if they admitting this openly

Wait, are they saying they essentially invented doing this?

fake p*** page to repost your homemade sextape
chaotic goon