Why won’t u change that damn avatar I hate it so much

Dont care didnt ask

Weeknd guy dumb af saying any concept he never heard before is experimental

Nah, you’re just illiterate

Ain’t about race it’s about culture. And if talking about this kinda of stuff makes u uncomfortable, stop talking bout music. This industry literally had something called race records and that didn’t change. They just made the terms more pc.

U say charli album is more like bon iver and francis and the lights, but not at all like yeezus and after hours. That’s lazy specifically because your comparison is more about race than music.

And if it wasn’t you’d be able to say exactly wat makes it more like one and not the other while accounting for the one and the other being related and similar.

I literally tracked the influence for this album with sounds I’ve heard before. If u never heard music like this, that makes u the pretentious dumbass. At me next time p****.

It doesn’t matter how she was marketed. She was never as popular as weeknd at any point in her career even when weeknd was underground. This is not 1997. Being underground in hip hop today isn’t literal.

You could market her any way u want, she’d still be less pop than Pink Floyd.

Doing pop music doesn’t automatically make u more pop than pop rappers.

Y’all could of appreciated this album for the aoty contender that it is.

But y’all had to act like it’s some symbol of pop dominance over hip hop on a hip hop site.

Then when somebody disagrees, y’all are confused and in shambles.

Pop the new underground rap. Y’all wouldnt support it if it didn’t make u feel different for liking something that’s not the most popular.

If y’all like the music, talk about the music. Don’t take shots at other artists to overcompensate for your lack of identity.

Y’all don’t got honor respect or customs

where did i f***ing say it represents any kind of dominance over hip hop

my AOTY is After Hours

I never tried to make this discussion about race or culture or whatever man

I just said this album makes me think about Bon Iver more than it makes me think about The Weeknd, why cant i have an opinion

chill tf out
if someone thinks that pop is stronger than rap right now theyre allowed to express that opinion

you took one statement and blew it up way too hard. we are still appreciating this album and appreciating hip hop. come on man

I dont even need some kind of political reason to like some f***ing music wtf are you even talking about

I like this album because my gf made me listen to it and it reminded me of some cool stuff I like too

That post was 100% not directed at u. That’s why I didn’t quote u. U seem to have a guilty conscience.

And u can have an opinion, but if u aren’t able to articulate yourself against critiques of your opinion, then go back to the drawing board.

Bob iver works with and appears on the albums of one of the most influential and experimental pop/hiphop artists ever. Once more, those albums that bon iver was on had a great influence over weeknd. So making some clear distinction between weeknd and Justin vernon without specific deliniations is agenda driven.

They can both have equal influence over the album, but to act like one has a bunch and the other has none is completely disingenuous.

I never said bon iver couldn’t have influence on this album, because I don’t resent his influence over others.

Knowing that bon iver and The Weeknd are similar vocally and both influential, but denying the weeknd’s influence is some agenda driven s***.

That’s like saying. Nah, the apple ain’t red, it’s round.

Both things can be true.

If u said, nah, no weeknd influence. More like ian curtis it would make more sense because they are vocally different.

The fact that you said no not this guy, but a guy who sounds similar and hasn’t released a project as recent and influenctial is clear evidence that u have ulterior motives.

Ain’t no hiding behind the whole, it’s my opinion bullshit. Ppl will ask u to back it up to see if it’s backed by honesty.

If someone thinks pop is stronger than rap, they can keep that opinion off a discussion board if they’re unwilling to have a conversation about it.

Sounds you heard before from an album....a month ago

I literally talked about yeezus. Y’all want me to bring up 9 inch nails to validate your snobbery. Foh. Yeezus nigga.

man you're full of s*** if you think Bon Iver and The Weeknd are anything alike

Subject matter, production, instrumentations, vocal delivery, inflections, writing... all different, and what you mean Bon Iver released an album not even a year ago, with extensive contributions from one of the collaborator IN CHARLIS ALBUM, THATS LITTERALY WHY IM SAYING IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE BON IVER THAN THE WEEKND BECAUSE THERES LITTERALY THE SAME PRODUCER NOT BECAUSE I HAVE AN AGENDA AGAINST THE WEEKND OR HIP HOP OR BLACK PEOPLE god damn it why do you have to get all political about it

After Hours is my aoty and im a fan of everything The Weeknd has done and yes he's been using the Prismizer effect, but not even on After Hours, if you had said Starboy or that one song with Cashmere Cat I wouldve agreed with you but whatever

i want to lick those panties she wearing

Imagine defending the state of rap in 2020. Last remotely relevant albums that weren't streambait music for braindead 16 year olds were die lit and igor

Everyone agrees with the yeezus influence, that's been widely accepted for a while. Weeknd comparison is lazy af tho

I mean come on you want people to talk about the music and only the music without having an agenda, that's exactly what im doing, you're the one pushing agendas rn man im sorry

If we really are gonna talk about blatantly obvious direct influences it should be 1000 Gecs

but then again, Dylan Brady's a producer on this album so it just makes sense, same with the Bon Iver comparison

You’re gonna say Justin and Abel don’t both use an autotune head voice? You sound like u never listened to them.

Your perception is dominated by the lifestyle the music is about more than the music itself.

If u think charli made wat she called a quarantine album with heavy falsetto autotune and hip hop and dance drums and the biggest album during quarantine that used heavy falsetto auto tune hip hop and dance drums aren’t even comparable, u clearly have an agenda.

U sucking off bon iver only makes things worse. Now calm down.