I remember the day pills & automobiles dropped like it was yesterday man. I was in disbelief that was the first Chris brown song I thought was complete garbage

I really hated that back to love flopped so hard. I still listen to it so often.

I just feel like him dropping songs like pills, wobble up, put in work etc. only harm his career. Those songs decrease his core fan base cause that’s not what we want from him and at the same time he doesn’t gain any casual/mainstream listeners cause the songs just aren’t catchy enough

Probably yeah. I don’t think he even has an actual team anymore? Just friends that he plays his music for.

I think CB is extremely creative but he just has a lot of ideas at once and changes direction every 10 minutes so it just seems messy

"Probably yeah. I don’t think he even has an actual team anymore? Just friends that he plays his music for.

I think CB is extremely creative but he just has a lot of ideas at once and changes direction every 10 minutes so it just seems messy".

that's exactly it.

I think moving on from this thread would be necessary and joining the Instagram group. KTT was the only real site that brought us together and Bc it’s been abandoned there’s not much to go from here. As we grow older we not gonna have time to keep checking this thread, it’s best to just go on insta tbh....just make an acc and be in there. You ain’t gonna follow no one.

what is the insta group btw?

How do people know that secrets/do I ever is Tone Stith ft. CB and not the other way around?

usually the people who leak those songs have some knowledge of its origins and, many times, there are id3 tags included on the original file.

Makes sense. Hope it at least gets an official release then

We just chat about Chris on Instagram, basically same as here but smaller and used a bit more often

hit me up with it.

Give us the link of the insta

It’s a group chat, I just need your username and I can add you

That group bumpin!!!! I say f*** this place. Yo we need dwilliams in that group!!!!!!

Dwilliams where you at king 🤴🏼

Glad to have you bro!

Are you even in the group?

Lmaooo yeah I am bro not gonna say who I am tho 😎😎😎

This Keyan no doubt lmaooo

You ain’t finna expose me bro even if you are right haha. I am admitting to nothing

I also dont want to give my info. So can someone please show me how to join except giving my info

Extended snippet of Do I Ever/Secrets

How do I pm name @cole_breezy

Surprised @cole_breezy isn’t OP

Had to get in there first :

"Probably yeah. I don’t think he even has an actual team anymore? Just friends that he plays his music for.

I think CB is extremely creative but he just has a lot of ideas at once and changes direction every 10 minutes so it just seems messy"

I agree. He doesn't have anyone telling him what doesn't sound good so he puts stuff out thinking it's a dope song when it can be garbage. I wish he had "that guy" in his corner. Janet had Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. MJ had Quincy. Usher had JD and B Cox. JT has Timbaland and Pharrell. He doesn't have that connection with someone who's grown with him musically, so it feels like there is nowhere for him to go. Which is probably why people complain about him singing the same song over and over again. No one is helping him evolve, so he's very hit and miss. He's unreliable at this point.

Most artists are inconsistent to an extent, but he's all over the place sometimes. And when he's not all over the place trend chasing, he goes back to his "my d*** will change your life" formula which people are tired of.

I wish he'd take a step back and just stop. Stop and listen to other music, work with new producers, other writers, etc. If he took even a 3 year break he could come back with a solid, complete, cohesive album. But he doesn't seem interested. It's sad to me cuz I feel like he has no vision. He's just putting stuff out just to put it out at this point. Yeah that's fine, he deserves to have some fun, but the legacy he leaves behind looks like it'll be weak. Take the performing out and what does the music by itself do? He's very creative and has a lot of ideas but he just feels lost to me.