Noir

3y

What no the lyrics have definitely not taken a step back from JIK. That album is full of surface level religious platitudes often parroted by the recently-saved, the kind of people who don't have the experience with or depth of understanding necessary to communicate the Christian life in a meaningful way. The writing really caps the appeal of that album.

One listen to Jesus Lord illustrates the increased nuance in Kanye's understanding of Christianity and the potential challenges and contradictions of religious thought, specifically regarding abortion, the loss of loved ones, etc.

free world

3y

Jesus walks is the best form of Christian Kanye has ever been. The record was fully spiritual and focused lyrically with radio appeal. Kanye can’t do that anymore because he’s surrounded by weirdos. He probably burned a lot of bridges too...

cool customer

3y

it’s not your normal christian music, but i do feel a “hopefulness in the midst of darkness” when listening to the album as a whole

HITSLIKEDIETCOKE

3y

It's becoming more and more apparent that Kanye is making content under the surface level guise of Christianity

The most glaring example of this is featuring trap related content on Donda. He has mixed surface level Christian commentary with regular album features. To any actual Christian this contradiction would be felt.

The spirit of God is not here, but instead, a victory over the struggles of life at a more carnal level - yet labelled as Christianity. "Make me new again, I repent for everything I'm going to do all over again"

This kind of thing is not a unique theme in the broader music scene. See for example people like Buddy.

But is the authenticity of the intention as important as the impact of the product? Well, that's the question. We as consumers need not understand the difference

YeahN9h

3y

Nothing about LP3 seemed Christian like.

Some of the darkest s*** Ye has ever performed.

Nomad Lost

3y

Normal Christians ain't perfect. Kanye, who has been clear he has struggled with substance and alcohol abuse, made an album that is being transparent about who Kanye is rn. Not to mention the fact he was dealing with major family problems, and it's pretty obvious this album has darker songs because this album isnt about Christianity, it's about Kanye West.

CDDenimFlow

3y

I think Kanye wanted to make Christian record sound cool and dope. With JIK faith related themes were very straightforward and the aesthetic kinda matched the aesthetic of old, maybe a little bit trippy, Christian-themed albums (not only gospel, there is a lot of old Christian psychodelic folk or rock). This time Kanye used matrices of modern, very current trends (drill, explorations of trap, all black, dark visuals etc) and toned down his preaching mode in order to make the same message sound much more cool and up to date.

Kako

3y

This. The idea that Christians are this perfect holier than thou judgmental types who are better than everybody comes from American Christianity.. in reality real Christians are just normal flawed human beings and we go through the same temptations and are not immune to them in anyway, most of us probably worse than non-Christians in terms of our sins, we just recognize we can never truly fix ourselves and accept the grace of God sacrifice for us. That's all being Christian is. It's very simple. Everything else is extra.

DonutHole

3y

The Christian dogma of god will forgive you if you repent no matter what stems from the church forcing that narrative to not make the ruling class (nobility, royalty, clergy..) feel bad about their sins

Different interpretations of Christianity existed via different monasteries but most got persecuted by the catholic church

It's not really what "Christianity is about" but moreso a forced narrative that benefitted the ruling class

I also feel like kanye being a rich billionaire and all, is embracing this idea of Jesus making him new again and washing him from his sins for self agrandizing purposes but what do I know

I don't really care for seemingly self-interested Christians who operate like mega - church pastors but again what do I know right lol

Only thing that we know for certain is that following Christianity is about following christ - read his gospel and follow him to be a Christian

RIP PRINCE

3y

times like these i wish i was a mod so i can just delete bros whole account

DonutHole

3y

Why not save yourself and all of us the trouble and delete your own account?

RIP PRINCE

3y

ima spit in ur mouth g

Bernie X

3y

Before saying some s*** like this Y’all gotta sit back and ask yourselves what the f*** do you even know about Kanye’s relationship with god, or anyone’s at all?

RIP PRINCE

3y

ima spit in ur mouth g