Very glad most of the replies ITT are left-leaning though

Capitalists go away

Yeah Twitter has great recs for books but the community is so rigid and over-the-top

Book aged like wine, not a dated word in there

Yup, but you have non-Marxist democratic socialists these days, as well as Dengists/market socialists who see China as the endgoal.

But it's funny seeing those irrelevant tendencies Marx talks about.

I mean there is a reason we talk about communism all these years later and not freaking Georgism or mutualism.

Cue Paris Morton Music 2 intro speecj

yea but are democratic socialists really socialists in anything but name?

Not according to our understanding

It makes more sense when you realize they are all teenagers.

If u have any questions just ask in the socialism thread

I see where u r coming from but would advise u to keep a more open mind on ML, and not to think ML = USSR politics but more just a framework of how to deal with political issues

Furthermore ML is always modified. Maybe you can read Cockshotts Towards A New Socialism, which mixes ML with De Leon, syndicalism; Trotskyism, direct democracy and cybernetics and information technology. It has valuable ideas especially about economic planning.

It's not putting him on blast. Both of them belong in museums

"I'm against the idea of replicating a USSR-styled revolution in 2021,"

I got something to sell u it's called protracted peoples war

Would this really be possible after the US perfecting the style for 20 years they won’t hold back on their own

probably?

I mean they lost against the Taliban, the Nexals, and Philippines are still holding out and making gains . Guerrilla warfare is the key, the only problem is that its insanely intensive and most communists are just weirdo nerds.

I’d say the circumstances are totally different in regards to just how far away we are from the level of popularity needed to establish bases of control

Yeah 100% agree with that but thats why we should start now, the point is to plant the seeds now otherwise we'll never get anywhere we want to, and it won't be a long time anyway expecting any communist revolution, the Bolsheviks took 15 years and the Chinese's 30 years. We shouldn't expect anything in 4 years or maybe even in our life times but we should start building now so hopefully someone else can finish off what we started, or maybe luckily finish what we started.

I never understood the 'selfishness' argument against communism. If you're selfish, you want to be a communist because you're being compensated for the full value of your labor, and not having the majority of it sucked upwards by the capitalist intermediary.

The difference between communist selfishness and capitalist selfishness is that the capitalist is willing to coerce, extort, or enslave other people into producing capital for them; the communist only wants the all of the fruits of their own labor.

will peep

need a mod to lock the thread lowkey bc i don't wanna deal with conservatives being obsolete all up in my thread

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