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  • Back in the day you wouldnt get Nirvana trying to do a pop punk song like Green Day, or Sublime trying to do a grunge song like Pearl Jam..

    You wouldn't hear Nas trying to hop on a west coast G-Funk beat like Dre.. (and when he did work with Dre on The Firm it was a collab project), or hear Outkast trying to rap on gritty NY boom bap beat like Mobb Deep

    So why da hell artists today be so quick to hop on waves, like Trippie, YB, and DaBaby hopping on the rage beats, or Bad Bunny from making latin trap and reggaeton to hopping on the Mexican country beats? (and 90% of modern artists)

    Do they not hear how trash they sound on those type of beats? They're degrading the quality of music

    Im sure Nas and Nirvana recorded some s*** for fun in the studio, the difference is they wouldn't PUT IT OUT cause they were self aware enough to know "Hey my voice is not meant to be singing/rapping this way over this kind of instrumentation"

    An example of an artist being self aware that he DOES sound good over another sound is BIGGIE on Going Back to Cali: his voice DOES work over that beat and go hard af, so he finna drop it as a one off to show mfers "Im really him"

    (Then ofc Drake is just a cheat code, he's the ultimate trend rider and wave stealer, and his voice works with almost any flow or sound 95% of the time)

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    Get a bag jit

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    Spice Kitty

    Get a bag jit

    Boy if u dont

  • Jun 10, 2023
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    TheSmokeMonster

    Boy if u dont

    im saying these artists do it for the bag

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    Spice Kitty

    Get a bag jit

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    Spice Kitty

    im saying these artists do it for the bag

    Thats a whole nother thread for the Life section, Ima post it

    Im tired of mfers saying "Its for the bag" there is no more integrity

    Mfers will suck d*** for "a bag"

    Mfers will sell crack to their neighbor "for a bag"

    Mfers will drop a song saying "I LIKE IT IN THE BUTT!" "for a bag"

    Its a wack mentality

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    Nas released some horrible albums tbh

    And low key we live in an age of clout chasing so sadly this is the new business model for a lot of people but I’m pretty sure corny collabs have kind of always been a thing, especially in the 90s

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    TheSmokeMonster

    Thats a whole nother thread for the Life section, Ima post it

    Im tired of mfers saying "Its for the bag" there is no more integrity

    Mfers will suck d*** for "a bag"

    Mfers will sell crack to their neighbor "for a bag"

    Mfers will drop a song saying "I LIKE IT IN THE BUTT!" "for a bag"

    Its a wack mentality

    i love to inspire

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    VAGABOND02

    Nas released some horrible albums tbh

    And low key we live in an age of clout chasing so sadly this is the new business model for a lot of people but I’m pretty sure corny collabs have kind of always been a thing, especially in the 90s

    !https://youtu.be/4B_UYYPb-Gk

    This is a bad example though cause at the time it wasn't "corny" it was revolutionary, it showed white america that "damn, this hip hop thing is actually kind of cool"

    It literally made rap mainstream

    Obviously we say its corny now, cause its easier to place it, amongst all the subgenres and artists that have come since then

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    Caun
    https://twitter.com/prvdanic/status/1667143392407568388

    Funny enough there’s probably alot of ppl quoting that video saying “mood”

  • Jun 10, 2023
    Caun
    https://twitter.com/prvdanic/status/1667143392407568388

    Lol, some broke mfer on Twitter mad that they have done nothing in life, calling a successful celebrity (whose life they probably envy) cringe

    Ok prvdanic

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    TheSmokeMonster

    This is a bad example though cause at the time it wasn't "corny" it was revolutionary, it showed white america that "damn, this hip hop thing is actually kind of cool"

    It literally made rap mainstream

    Obviously we say its corny now, cause its easier to place it, amongst all the subgenres and artists that have come since then

    It’s just kind of crazy to frame it like the past was some kind of super self aware time like there weren’t all these corny ass songs back then too

    The 90s was pretty much the golden age of the one hit wonder

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    Not making music in only one subgenre = lack of self awareness

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    VAGABOND02

    It’s just kind of crazy to frame it like the past was some kind of super self aware time like there weren’t all these corny ass songs back then too

    The 90s was pretty much the golden age of the one hit wonder

    I mean we could go down a list of mainstream artists and see that they mostly stick to their respective sounds, and slightly deviate from there

    Its not like a DaBaby to rage beats kind of jump lol

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    It takes legends to hop genres and styles successfully. Gaga, Bowie, Beyonce. Not many else can do it.

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    I wouldnt dare say taylor... but :donshrug:

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    TheSmokeMonster

    Thats a whole nother thread for the Life section, Ima post it

    Im tired of mfers saying "Its for the bag" there is no more integrity

    Mfers will suck d*** for "a bag"

    Mfers will sell crack to their neighbor "for a bag"

    Mfers will drop a song saying "I LIKE IT IN THE BUTT!" "for a bag"

    Its a wack mentality

    welcome to crapitalism

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    fun

    welcome to crapitalism

    Im tired of blaming systems, celebrities, politicians, leaders, music, film, video games, etc for things people do

    Its time we blame THE PEOPLE

    Thats a cop out... "cApitaLisM!"

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    TheSmokeMonster

    I mean we could go down a list of mainstream artists and see that they mostly stick to their respective sounds, and slightly deviate from there

    Its not like a DaBaby to rage beats kind of jump lol

    okay well me having been a metal fan, i'm aware that metal bands in that era from the 80s were heavily criticised for switching up and watering down their sounds to cater to a more pop appeal, specifically a lot of metal bands doing the grunge/alt rock thing. so tbf i think it was a thing back then too.

    also i think some bands from the 60/70s would switch to a much more synthy sound in the 80s or try to do a new wave thing including queen, david bowie, the rolling stones and aerosmith

    i guess what i'm saying is it's not uncommon for artists to want to switch up their sound with the passing of the seasons. since music is changing so rapidly these days thanks to the internet and social media, relevance can wane and fade quickly so these artists have extra incentive to try to stay relevant but conforming to whatever sound is hot or popping at the moment

    so again, it's just how the business works

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    TheSmokeMonster

    Im tired of blaming systems, celebrities, politicians, leaders, music, film, video games, etc for things people do

    Its time we blame THE PEOPLE

    Thats a cop out... "cApitaLisM!"

    ur acting shocked that people break imaginary rules to make money

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    TheSmokeMonster

    Im tired of blaming systems, celebrities, politicians, leaders, music, film, video games, etc for things people do

    Its time we blame THE PEOPLE

    Thats a cop out... "cApitaLisM!"

    This, the pseudo-leftists on here are so cringe w that s***.

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    fun

    ur acting shocked that people break imaginary rules to make money

    Listen: Im a fan of capitalism. I LOVE money. I LOVE having nice things.

    But that doesn't mean Ima take a "bag" and buy a bugatti over securing a roof over my familys head

    That doesn't mean Ima disregard any ideas I place value on for "a bag"

    The problem here imo lies within modern day artists having no real respect or love for music: hence it is easy for them to not care about the art form, and what they're doing for "the bag"

    My point with all this is: you can still love money and nice things, and have integrity and honor in your choices. I blame the people, not the system. People need more honor and self control

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    TheSmokeMonster

    Listen: Im a fan of capitalism. I LOVE money. I LOVE having nice things.

    But that doesn't mean Ima take a "bag" and buy a bugatti over securing a roof over my familys head

    That doesn't mean Ima disregard any ideas I place value on for "a bag"

    The problem here imo lies within modern day artists having no real respect or love for music: hence it is easy for them to not care about the art form, and what they're doing for "the bag"

    My point with all this is: you can still love money and nice things, and have integrity and honor in your choices. I blame the people, not the system. People need more honor and self control

    I blame the people, not the system

    are people not largely shaped by the system they live in?

    That doesn't mean Ima disregard any ideas I place value on for "a bag"

    everyone says this, doesnt mean they dont switch up when the opportunity presents itself