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  • May 23, 2021

    this guy makes such nice beats on his phone

  • May 23, 2021
    Worldpremiere_

    Didnt madlib produce all of bandana on his ipad?

    Allegedly

  • May 23, 2021
    DAVIDP

    It doesn't compare to an actual production program like Ableton or Logic Pro

    Depends on what you’re talking about imo, if you’re recording a whole band then yea, and mixing, making hip hop beats tho there’s basically no limitations for me

  • May 23, 2021
    VeggieKubernetes

    I think like most things it will be abstracted in a way that allows people to use phones to make professional grade beats but I think most producers will stop opt for a full workstation

    Full disclosure not a beat maker but haven’t worked in low code developement platforms and I assume the theory holds true here as well

    THISSSSSS, there’s a f***ing feeling when you get a pc and a daw for the first time that you don’t get when downloading GarageBand. It’s the perfect balance of portability (if it’s a laptop) and usability. It’s right in between using a whole ass collection of keyboards and using a phone to produce.

  • May 23, 2021
    DAVIDP

    It doesn't compare to an actual production program like Ableton or Logic Pro

    Well yea of course, but my point is that the capability is there now. It just needs the right team of people to execute it. It’s inevitable

  • May 23, 2021
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    Damon Albarn used an iPhone/iPad to make the Gorillaz album The Fall...and it shows. Producers can probably get away with making beats and sampling tracks with iOS and it'll go pretty well. However for everything else I think people are still very much going to prefer using their DAWs on a desktop Mac/PC. S*** maybe even a laptop.

    The convenience and ease of access producing via an iOS/Android app on mobile devices is appealing of course, but you sacrifice a lot of other functions and features. No matter how hard they try to sell/push it, a lil mobile app can't do everything.

  • May 23, 2021

    Real ones have been making slappers in koala

  • May 23, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    Damon Albarn used an iPhone/iPad to make the Gorillaz album The Fall...and it shows. Producers can probably get away with making beats and sampling tracks with iOS and it'll go pretty well. However for everything else I think people are still very much going to prefer using their DAWs on a desktop Mac/PC. S*** maybe even a laptop.

    The convenience and ease of access producing via an iOS/Android app on mobile devices is appealing of course, but you sacrifice a lot of other functions and features. No matter how hard they try to sell/push it, a lil mobile app can't do everything.

    Damn very good points here

  • May 23, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    Damon Albarn used an iPhone/iPad to make the Gorillaz album The Fall...and it shows. Producers can probably get away with making beats and sampling tracks with iOS and it'll go pretty well. However for everything else I think people are still very much going to prefer using their DAWs on a desktop Mac/PC. S*** maybe even a laptop.

    The convenience and ease of access producing via an iOS/Android app on mobile devices is appealing of course, but you sacrifice a lot of other functions and features. No matter how hard they try to sell/push it, a lil mobile app can't do everything.

    This

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  • May 23, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Damon Albarn used an iPhone/iPad to make the Gorillaz album The Fall...and it shows. Producers can probably get away with making beats and sampling tracks with iOS and it'll go pretty well. However for everything else I think people are still very much going to prefer using their DAWs on a desktop Mac/PC. S*** maybe even a laptop.

    The convenience and ease of access producing via an iOS/Android app on mobile devices is appealing of course, but you sacrifice a lot of other functions and features. No matter how hard they try to sell/push it, a lil mobile app can't do everything.

    I think hip hop producers are closer to utilizing iOS production than producers in other genres for sure.

  • May 23, 2021
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    on the real tho I wouldn't be able to produce what I make inside ableton on some iOS app I abuse certain techniques with plugins that I prob can't recreate inside random apps

  • May 23, 2021
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    eversince

    on the real tho I wouldn't be able to produce what I make inside ableton on some iOS app I abuse certain techniques with plugins that I prob can't recreate inside random apps

    Mobile devices are s*** for workflow

  • May 23, 2021

    That still blows my mind when I think about Madlib tweeting he using an iPad

    All of Bandana?

  • May 23, 2021
    eversince

    on the real tho I wouldn't be able to produce what I make inside ableton on some iOS app I abuse certain techniques with plugins that I prob can't recreate inside random apps

    p much been what ive been saying haha

    i think they have their value tho

  • May 23, 2021
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    jackweb

    Mobile devices are s*** for workflow

    Why do you say that?

  • mothership

    I think hip hop producers are closer to utilizing iOS production than producers in other genres for sure.

    I feel like that's just further credit to hip-hop as it was always a genre where one "Makes it however they can" when it came to music. As long as you can sample and make/add drumloops then you can make beats using anything.

  • May 23, 2021
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    mothership

    Why do you say that?

    You don’t have any keyboard shortcuts, touchscreen controls are slow asf compared to a mouse. and mixing is a pain

  • May 23, 2021
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    mothership

    We’re already aware that the legendary producer Madlib has been using his iPad to make beats for years now, and nobody could even tell the difference. Also, doesn’t Steve lacy record directly into his phone and mix on garage band?

    A growing portion kids growing up today favor mobile devices over desktops. Phones and tablets are what they’re accustomed to. Couple this with the growing viability and ease of iOS production tools. Mobile devices processors are steady improving so I think there’s a whole market to tap into here. It’s exciting to think about

    Imagine pulling out your phone and cookin some s*** up real quick, and it sounds just as good as something you’d make on ableton. It’s within our grasp. I can see it

    why do people push that steve lacy narrative so hard. he essentially does demos on ios then moves to actual daws. to top it all off when people mention him or how drake and kanye have recorded into a damn iphone they seem to leave out the fact that they still have top of the line engineers and producers working on their s***

  • May 23, 2021
    jackweb

    You don’t have any keyboard shortcuts, touchscreen controls are slow asf compared to a mouse. and mixing is a pain

    I’ll give you shortcuts.
    But you’re equating a desktop experience to a touch screen. What if somebody created an iOS daw with these issues in mind and found an intuitive, creative way to incorporate shortcuts etc? The strength of these devices are the tactility and simplicity. Not many apps play on that, which is why they come off as clunky.

    Sure, what we have now has its downfalls, but it is NOW possible to create something that plays on all of the strengths of the iPad to create something completely revolutionary. A whole new workflow exclusive to iOS producers. It’s just hard to imagine because we’re so used to the desktop workflow. I’m looking toward the future, not right now.

  • May 23, 2021
    Saul Goodman

    why do people push that steve lacy narrative so hard. he essentially does demos on ios then moves to actual daws. to top it all off when people mention him or how drake and kanye have recorded into a damn iphone they seem to leave out the fact that they still have top of the line engineers and producers working on their s***

    My point I’m including him was that it’s more of a commonplace to rely on our phones for recording. Professional musicians wouldn’t have dreamed of doing that in 2012

  • May 23, 2021
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    I still don’t believe Madlib did Bandana on iPad tbh

    I know how powerful an iPad can be and for Steve Lacey’s music it makes sense, he’s DI-ing guitars and bass into it.

    But the bpms, time stretching, intricate sample chops that Banadana beats must’ve required seems way beyond an iPad to me idk

    I always thought he was just making a joke/commentary on how accessible beat making is. But he also said he made NMPILA on an iPad years before that so I don’t know if I’m right

  • May 23, 2021
    Everest

    I still don’t believe Madlib did Bandana on iPad tbh

    I know how powerful an iPad can be and for Steve Lacey’s music it makes sense, he’s DI-ing guitars and bass into it.

    But the bpms, time stretching, intricate sample chops that Banadana beats must’ve required seems way beyond an iPad to me idk

    I always thought he was just making a joke/commentary on how accessible beat making is. But he also said he made NMPILA on an iPad years before that so I don’t know if I’m right

    When I found out it definitely changed my perspective on this s***. I’m surprised people didn’t start taking iOS production more seriously

  • May 23, 2021

    it’s possible if you don’t mind the screen size limitations and uncomfortable setup

    in the end it’s all just some sound waves on a audio file.

    do it how you want

  • May 23, 2021

    I make better music on my phone with GarageBand than 90% of artist rn