Mar 7, 2022·2 replies
JeffersonSteelflexWith this situation it’s moreso the Kim stuff that will be remembered in an age where things like this don’t fly well and with Kanye being Kanye people are doubling down more than anything.
Honestly as a fan, I’m sick of the edgelord way he’s releasing music. I sit back and watch the antics in hopes that the music will live up so when he just pump fakes stuff it’s annoying to deal with and pushes me away personally. Years ago I would have defended this being unfinshed and would have been mad at the reviews but now it’s like Idgaf cause clearly he doesn’t respect me as a consumer lol
that's true but because he's got too many scandals to remember them all sometimes I feel like we'll forget most of them and just remember the music.
Outside of the MAGA thing I've honestly forgotten most of Ye's controversies. In 5 years I'll probably have forgotten him bringing out Manson and only remember the Donda songs I liked.
I feel like if you just ignore a lot of the rollout you can still enjoy music. If Ye was an artist you were less of a fan of you'd probably miss most of their rollout and just give the album a go when it dropped on the Apple homepage
Mar 7, 2022·2 replies
WESLEYS THEORYYe was a f***ing idiot for going and trying to use that platform to express his views when they were always just going to contort whatever he spoke.
2013 Ye had the right idea on how to treat scummy publications.
Kanye in 2013 would laugh at everything he’s done since 2018
Idk how he made all that commentary back then just to literally go against everything he’s said
- Mar 7, 2022·2 replieseye contact
Kanye in 2013 would laugh at everything he’s done since 2018
Idk how he made all that commentary back then just to literally go against everything he’s said
I pin it to whatever happened in late 2016 that is still to this day largely kept hidden from us.
Im not a conspiracy theorist, but something really spooky happened and he hasn’t been the same since.
Mar 7, 2022·1 replytheDonandOnlythat's true but because he's got too many scandals to remember them all sometimes I feel like we'll forget most of them and just remember the music.
Outside of the MAGA thing I've honestly forgotten most of Ye's controversies. In 5 years I'll probably have forgotten him bringing out Manson and only remember the Donda songs I liked.
I feel like if you just ignore a lot of the rollout you can still enjoy music. If Ye was an artist you were less of a fan of you'd probably miss most of their rollout and just give the album a go when it dropped on the Apple homepage
A lot of them are documented in his Netflix series now lol
Especially on episode 3 you get the idea that it's less about the music now when it comes to Kanye
Mar 7, 2022·1 reply
UnforgivableThis man really released an album with unfinished demos, fully censored, and wanting us to pay 200 dollars for it from an unknown streaming platform
The f***ing nerve of him
And his stans will call him a genius for it...knowing they ain't about to drop $200 for it and probably just downloaded it for free lol
- Mar 7, 2022·1 replyWESLEYS THEORY
I pin it to whatever happened in late 2016 that is still to this day largely kept hidden from us.
Im not a conspiracy theorist, but something really spooky happened and he hasn’t been the same since.
I think that and Uganda changed a LOT for Kanye
- Mar 7, 2022Smacked Voodoo
And his stans will call him a genius for it...knowing they ain't about to drop $200 for it and probably just downloaded it for free lol
Aside from the first 4 songs that released, I've still haven't listened to the album with the new songs added on it
and still refuse until it's finally finished - Mar 7, 2022·2 replieseye contact
I think that and Uganda changed a LOT for Kanye
What happened in Uganda?
- Mar 7, 2022·1 replyWESLEYS THEORY
I pin it to whatever happened in late 2016 that is still to this day largely kept hidden from us.
Im not a conspiracy theorist, but something really spooky happened and he hasn’t been the same since.
I mean he had a psychotic break
That on its own is pretty spooky
- Mar 7, 2022·1 replyWESLEYS THEORY
Ye as an album is atleast finished, and if you dislike that album, you atleast got Daytona and KSG during that period as well which are both great LPs.
Yeah Daytona is amazing. To me Ye's run as an overall musician starts with Blueprint and ends with Daytona. Since then it's been a bit hit and miss
Ye is finished in that there's no gaps, but it feels so underdeveloped to me. So in a sense it feels way more unfinished than Donda or even JiK. To me he just sounds so unsure of what he wants to do on Ye. Like he's out of ideas and direction
Mar 7, 2022WESLEYS THEORYI feel like he definitely was with his 2017/2018 singles and was aware that dropping the albums and dipping out for another 5+ years with no content wasn’t a good idea.
The 2019 singles were probably leading up to a new album that got botched thanks to COVID. So I don’t entirely place the blame on Frank.
Even before the covid, u could only hear the singles if u brought a vinyl which didn't ended up shipping for months after purchase and one of them still hasn't even come yet (little demon) and was cancelled
And for the 2017/18 singles I dont think those were planned to drop to feed his fans while he goes on break considering he said the wait wouldn't be as long. Think he just wanted to drop music cause he felt like it
- Mar 7, 2022theDonandOnly
that's true but because he's got too many scandals to remember them all sometimes I feel like we'll forget most of them and just remember the music.
Outside of the MAGA thing I've honestly forgotten most of Ye's controversies. In 5 years I'll probably have forgotten him bringing out Manson and only remember the Donda songs I liked.
I feel like if you just ignore a lot of the rollout you can still enjoy music. If Ye was an artist you were less of a fan of you'd probably miss most of their rollout and just give the album a go when it dropped on the Apple homepage
From the outside perspective, his antics during a rollout turn a lot of people away beside us though. That’s why I get frustrated cause I have people in my life I would love to share this moment with but when he does ridiculous s***, it turns off a lot of people. Had he deaded the Pete and Kim s***, rolled with promoting the doc and made a song about the situation on Donda 2, he gets way more support. The way he does it turns a lot of people off even if say tonight he decided to upload D2 on the Stem Player. I know KTT doesn’t care about other people’s opinions, but Ye would be the MJ of our time if he didn’t do the nonsense
- Mar 7, 2022·1 replyJ2422
I mean he had a psychotic break
That on its own is pretty spooky
Yeah but there’s something else that happened for sure that has been kept under wraps all this time.
- Mar 7, 2022·1 replyWESLEYS THEORY
What happened in Uganda?
He was there working on Yandhi and the details are still murky but they were likely almost kidnapped by insurgents
- Mar 7, 2022WESLEYS THEORY
What happened in Uganda?
Cultist meeting of other rich people
Mar 7, 2022·1 replyeye contactHe was there working on Yandhi and the details are still murky but they were likely almost kidnapped by insurgents
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- Mar 7, 2022sniper
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- Mar 7, 2022·1 replytheDonandOnly
Yeah Daytona is amazing. To me Ye's run as an overall musician starts with Blueprint and ends with Daytona. Since then it's been a bit hit and miss
Ye is finished in that there's no gaps, but it feels so underdeveloped to me. So in a sense it feels way more unfinished than Donda or even JiK. To me he just sounds so unsure of what he wants to do on Ye. Like he's out of ideas and direction
"ye" album was made in a few days and it sounds just like that
JIK sounds like the outcome of maybe 2-3 weeks
Mar 7, 2022·1 replyAnyone else watch jeen-yuhs part 3 and come to the conclusion, from modern Kanye’s work schedule and process as portrayed there, that it was inevitable his projects would rapidly become these fractured compulsive projects in various states of polish until a Donda 2 was made?
Yeezus is my favorite album but my guess is that it would have been very similarly messy to something like JIK without Rick Rubin stepping in to sculpt it up.- Mar 7, 2022·1 replyJ2422
A lot of them are documented in his Netflix series now lol
Especially on episode 3 you get the idea that it's less about the music now when it comes to Kanye
yeah but even the Netflix doc forgets some of the worse ones. Some of those controversies like Taylor Swift and George Bush lowkey made him more legendary
They left out some of the unforgivable ones like Bill Cosby is Innocent, bringing out Manson. the MAGA hat is really bad and makes no sense with his lyrics on TCD/LR. But at the same time I feel like it's like the part they put in all those James Brown docs where he becomes a classic black conservative for a few years.
Also Ye's political ideas are too nonsensical to stay mad at. The whole time he said he loved Trump he said he wanted Bernie policies
- Mar 7, 2022·1 replyTheViciousCircle
Anyone else watch jeen-yuhs part 3 and come to the conclusion, from modern Kanye’s work schedule and process as portrayed there, that it was inevitable his projects would rapidly become these fractured compulsive projects in various states of polish until a Donda 2 was made?
Yeezus is my favorite album but my guess is that it would have been very similarly messy to something like JIK without Rick Rubin stepping in to sculpt it up.The Yeezus era as a whole is arguably the most self aware and thematically intricate era for Kanye. I think Rick coming in was more because Kanye had a LOT to say and less because his process was unraveling
- Mar 7, 2022
I could definitely see some bad s*** happening in Uganda and Ye freaking out enough to radically change direction from Yandhi to JIK for whatever reason.
- Mar 7, 2022·1 replyJ2422
"ye" album was made in a few days and it sounds just like that
JIK sounds like the outcome of maybe 2-3 weeks
never digged into when the Yandhi sessions happened but songs like Everything We Need had alternative explicit versions from there. So maybe JiK had old ideas in it. I don't mind JiK some of the verses like Water are complete trash but at least Ye was dedicated to a vision again in that era
- Mar 7, 2022theDonandOnly
never digged into when the Yandhi sessions happened but songs like Everything We Need had alternative explicit versions from there. So maybe JiK had old ideas in it. I don't mind JiK some of the verses like Water are complete trash but at least Ye was dedicated to a vision again in that era
Some ideas are over a year old Yeah
- Mar 7, 2022·3 repliestheDonandOnly
yeah but even the Netflix doc forgets some of the worse ones. Some of those controversies like Taylor Swift and George Bush lowkey made him more legendary
They left out some of the unforgivable ones like Bill Cosby is Innocent, bringing out Manson. the MAGA hat is really bad and makes no sense with his lyrics on TCD/LR. But at the same time I feel like it's like the part they put in all those James Brown docs where he becomes a classic black conservative for a few years.
Also Ye's political ideas are too nonsensical to stay mad at. The whole time he said he loved Trump he said he wanted Bernie policies
He didn’t love Trump, he loved the idea of Trump and how everyone doubted he could become what he set out to be, and he did it. And that inspired Ye.