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    @Andre_Mackonen said it first but yeah this a “nigga did i just catch you wanting to be s***?” ass take

  • Feb 12
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    NoFace

    @Andre_Mackonen said it first but yeah this a “nigga did i just catch you wanting to be s***?” ass take

  • whippet volverse

    I love Cole but he's never struck me as 'crazy creative'

    just a really great mc with a real story that's relatable

    typically makes dope beats, but not Crazy beats

    I was joking. He's a massive hypocrite about everything he says he stands for.

    The point stands that people make great raps about stuff other than the streets.

  • onedeep
    https://twitter.com/i/status/2021674265817526635

    Thoughts?

    Lyricists don't have to be from the streets or talk about the streets to be interesting

    you just have to be able to convey your average story in a unique and strong way

    niggas give street rappers a pass for making the same song 1000 times, because they're 'real niggas' but let someone from the burbs do it, and it's all we talk about

  • Andre Jaquet

    i tried to quote that s*** soon as i seen you write it lmao like yeah, i cant believe we’re shunning niggas for being lyricist and educated

  • Feb 12
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    aint jadakiss a college graduate??

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    onedeep

    Obvious Cole diss aside it's interesting that more 'street rappers' actually come from the streets than ever before but lyrical street rappers have disappeared

    The "street rappers" of today aren't real rappers in the sense how rappers back then were

    Drill and social media as it is today has made it so that actual killers can become rappers too. Remember back in the day you needed to actually have love for the craft you had to grind, freestyle, pass out tapes and whatnot and actually have skill to get noticed. Now you can just upload a drill diss on tiktok and go viral

  • NoFace

    saying this when you worked with Kanye for a good portion of your career is very #interesting

    a choice even

  • By definition what is a Street rapper?

    Cuz i wont lie either im not enthused by people that came from the suburbs when i came out here from east la and san bernardino seeing some s***, but thats life. and some of my favs had that background, so i cant really hate.

  • NoFace

    aint jadakiss a college graduate??

    yet he still comes from the streets

  • Cyhi forgetting who kanye west was in aspects of this tweet is hilarious tho

  • Feb 12
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    There's definitely truth to there being rappers who have all the skill and talent in the world with nothing to talk about

  • NoFace

    saying this when you worked with Kanye for a good portion of your career is very #interesting

    Facts

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    Hot Take: Streets holding hip-hop back

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    Lu The Ruler

    The "street rappers" of today aren't real rappers in the sense how rappers back then were

    Drill and social media as it is today has made it so that actual killers can become rappers too. Remember back in the day you needed to actually have love for the craft you had to grind, freestyle, pass out tapes and whatnot and actually have skill to get noticed. Now you can just upload a drill diss on tiktok and go viral

    100% agree

    EST Gee, Veeze, Youngboy, Polo G, Rob49, and Future are probably the last ones we recently got in the game if you ask me. lots of people like Lil Baby or 21 are to their credit very honest about rap being a business and hustle first, rather than some s*** they really care about and obsess over improving at.

  • This nigga’s biggest accomplishment in hip hop is writing for a college dropout …

  • Feb 12
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    Lu The Ruler

    The "street rappers" of today aren't real rappers in the sense how rappers back then were

    Drill and social media as it is today has made it so that actual killers can become rappers too. Remember back in the day you needed to actually have love for the craft you had to grind, freestyle, pass out tapes and whatnot and actually have skill to get noticed. Now you can just upload a drill diss on tiktok and go viral

    I wouldn’t say it’s ann accurate generalization to say this. Yes this CAN and has happened happen sure but anyone with an artist career now has to work harder as an individual to manage way more stuff and put in a lot more of themselves into blowing up than before.

    I don’t know why we assume effort or love for the art by the artist measured by our like of it, plenty rappers were f***ed out of opportunities because they weren’t from the right neighborhood or pissed off the wrong gatekeepers there were way more careers essentially molded by the label for a guy they found talented u acc have to build leverage now to get signed and it’s way more on you which has pros and cons yea but it’s nuanced. I would’ve agreed with you a lot more in 2021. Actually those killers tend to be put on by gatekeepers from their neighborhood (esp in ATL) like the old model a lot more than others.

    Accessibility and less restriction = more voices in general which means higher diversity of voices which also means a way more flexible box of acceptability and progress.

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    he quoted his own tweet

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    whippet volverse

    100% agree

    EST Gee, Veeze, Youngboy, Polo G, Rob49, and Future are probably the last ones we recently got in the game if you ask me. lots of people like Lil Baby or 21 are to their credit very honest about rap being a business and hustle first, rather than some s*** they really care about and obsess over improving at.

    I mean we just aren’t in a street rapper era as much, it’s just the hip hop pendulum in 2019-2022 there was an abundance of ts and it lowk was insanely boring

    Also this is why I ask what do we count as lyrical cuz I was gonna say veeze but some might not agree w that

  • I will say, yeah there was once a point where a large majority of street rappers were lyrical.. but it was just a whole different era where we still had gatekeepers and the gate was you had to be nice.

    S*** changed once making music and getting on became so accessible. Now a lot of niggas that’s in the streets just wanna rap to get lit. And then you got niggas who arent lyrical and aren’t even really street but pretend to be.

  • JPEGMAFIA

    There's definitely truth to there being rappers who have all the skill and talent in the world with nothing to talk about

    the not having life experiences take i understand

    at the same time, i just get the feeling he cannot relate to this era and therefore lashing out this way instead of broadening his perspective that someone’s struggle might be different from his

  • Sometimes a critic can have a good point

  • NoFace

    aint jadakiss a college graduate??

    I believe he dropped out, I feel like I heard him on an interview say he went to college but rap started to take off

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