Kanye was def not the only rapper who went to college at that time or before lol what it’s niggas who blew up because they were it on college campuses.
Kanye Kendrick Cole all come from the streets or say to and a lot of their music is informed by whats going on within it, I dont think he meant it has to be a gangsta perspective
I don’t think thats who he was aiming at i get the point hes tryna make or maybe im giving him too much bail and it was a sneak diss idk
I mean we just aren’t in a street rapper era as much, it’s just the hip hop pendulum in 2019-2022 there was an abundance of ts and it lowk was insanely boring
Also this is why I ask what do we count as lyrical cuz I was gonna say veeze but some might not agree w that
I don’t think Veeze would be considered lyrical in the traditional sense of the term, but he is a good writer
I mean we just aren’t in a street rapper era as much, it’s just the hip hop pendulum in 2019-2022 there was an abundance of ts and it lowk was insanely boring
Also this is why I ask what do we count as lyrical cuz I was gonna say veeze but some might not agree w that
Suburbs kids refusing to be clowned
tbh I feel like gen z overwhelmingly views the streets as lame, and I really like that, It's not even to say that they won't listen to a song with gun bars or gang bars, or that those types of rappers can't Catch, but in reality, even most gen z rappers who make street music would never actually live that life
is this something troy ave stan would say or nah
@TroyAveStan Salutes Cole for making going to college cool
is this something troy ave stan would say or nah
troy ave stan is who cyhi would be talking about if he were a rapper instead of a ktt2 shiposter
Suburbs kids refusing to be clowned
tbh I feel like gen z overwhelmingly views the streets as lame, and I really like that, It's not even to say that they won't listen to a song with gun bars or gang bars, or that those types of rappers can't Catch, but in reality, even most gen z rappers who make street music would never actually live that life
na fr cuz like so much of it is jsut tropes atp and to act like it ain’t interesting or lived experience when let’s be real even on this thread the majority of people cannot even relate it’s like idk the whole glorification of this masculine ideal is just boring rappers been lying forever anyways we want rappers to be authentic and real and naturally in an ART FORM THAT SHOULD BE RESPECTED AS ART a lot of the people wanting to paint also aren’t killing people
I wouldn’t say it’s ann accurate generalization to say this. Yes this CAN and has happened happen sure but anyone with an artist career now has to work harder as an individual to manage way more stuff and put in a lot more of themselves into blowing up than before.
I don’t know why we assume effort or love for the art by the artist measured by our like of it, plenty rappers were f***ed out of opportunities because they weren’t from the right neighborhood or pissed off the wrong gatekeepers there were way more careers essentially molded by the label for a guy they found talented u acc have to build leverage now to get signed and it’s way more on you which has pros and cons yea but it’s nuanced. I would’ve agreed with you a lot more in 2021. Actually those killers tend to be put on by gatekeepers from their neighborhood (esp in ATL) like the old model a lot more than others.
Accessibility and less restriction = more voices in general which means higher diversity of voices which also means a way more flexible box of acceptability and progress.
I hear what you are saying, but I think it's harder for lyricists to get noticed in today's era imo.
I agree that there are cons to the gate keeping era, but it's far easier for gang bangers that wouldn't have been rappers in the past to become one today. I feel like a lot of the "gangsta" rappers in past didn't actually gang bang and were more so dealers and closely affiliated with them, whereas today many are actually in them and have body counts and have become "rappers" as a result of the rise in drill and accessibility of social media
Lyrics dont matter, Yeat is a poet bla bla bla we've heard your sloptimism before
LMAO damn
Saying this when Kanye “College Dropout” West is the whole reason for your relevance is pretty funny
saying sing instead of song has been in my vocabulary for years cus of that dumbass tweet
Saying this when Kanye “College Dropout” West is the whole reason for your relevance is pretty funny
Considering he was one of his ghostwriters that actually may be his point cause back then atleast college niggas knew they needed help
Obvious Cole diss aside it's interesting that more 'street rappers' actually come from the streets than ever before but lyrical street rappers have disappeared
Isn’t this about Ye
Considering he was one of his ghostwriters that actually may be his point cause back then atleast college niggas knew they needed help
Yeah but he ain’t talking about yesterday he’s talking about today. Plus like someone else said Ice Cube went to college, so did Ludacris. It’s not uncommon for rappers to be college educated.
since when can u not be form the streets and also A student in college
getting/staying involved with the streets often leads to being less present in academia & dropping out early
I hear what you are saying, but I think it's harder for lyricists to get noticed in today's era imo.
I agree that there are cons to the gate keeping era, but it's far easier for gang bangers that wouldn't have been rappers in the past to become one today. I feel like a lot of the "gangsta" rappers in past didn't actually gang bang and were more so dealers and closely affiliated with them, whereas today many are actually in them and have body counts and have become "rappers" as a result of the rise in drill and accessibility of social media
my thing is we are way past the drill era atp
and the huge thing in this is we just know more than before like kinda impossible to know actually concretely who’s lying and who’s not for a lot of old rappers and depends where in the 52 years of hip hop we are talking + also like as u said it’s just u had to be more connected street wise in general to pop
Implying you don’t get life experience when you have good grades is f***ing crazy lmao
getting/staying involved with the streets often leads to being less present in academia & dropping out early
yea ur lesss likely to be both but these aren’t mutually exclusive things tho
Implying you don’t get life experience when you have good grades is f***ing crazy lmao