let's try to be objective here. surf gang never really broke out the underground yet, kendrick still their most mainstream placement. and they were already stamped in the underground for a minute before kendrick hit em up. s*** they already had a song w carti and asap before kendrick.

sexy drill broke out the underground w fisherrr and became the new mainstream. and drake was on it months before fisherr even came out. and it wasn't no carti or asap song on sexy drill either, drake was really the first mainstream guy to tap in.

point being, drake caught the bigger wave and caught it earlier. and idk how u can't see that or give him credit for it. its ok to admit he did some s*** right from time to time

Her Loss was the first Drake project I've thoroughly enjoyed since More Life. FATD, not so much.

If you say so

For All the Dogs got a lot of boring nothing ass elevator music on it. Virginia Beach, 7969 Santa, Bahamas Promises, Drew a Picasso, Members Only, and Polar Opposites to be exact.

Then the hiphop songs with beats that do nothing again, and Drake hops on it with straight bullshit. Don’t register as songs with any effort or skill put into them:
Fear Of Heights, Daylight (like are you serious)

What Would Pluto Do, a cool lil beat with a nice sample - but oh guess what? Here’s Drake again! Hopping on a beat with straight bullshit! He does it again to the first beat on All The Parties. Speaking of the rest of THAT song once the main beat comes in, it sounds like I’m listen to someone spiral manically in a pit of boredom, something that can be said of Drake on pretty much this entire project

Calling For You is another boring ass song. So is Gently, IDGAF - LMAO, Another Light Night is Drake (and Yachty’s annoying ass) hopping on an actually fun beat doing droning boring unmemorable bullshit yet again

Tried Our Best is beautiful music. I got more to say about this fecal butter album - no, playlist, cause this shouldn’t be called an album but ima stop here. F*** For All the Dogs

FATD has some good songs but overall it's just fine at best.

Her Loss is actually a good album and super sharp apart from 21 Savage. If it was a solo Drake album it'd probably be loved more.

Her Loss was ruined by the constant 21 glazing

Drake doesn’t have anything to rap about anymore.

ur crazy 7969, bahamas, drew a picasso all top 5 off the album

yes

also true

FATD was actually my AOTY last year but him being a pedo kind of ruined it

FATD is a borderline classic to me

Her loss was good

Both good albums

Her Loss probably overall better product

But FATD still had a lotta joints

I get what @Brave said about fatd being elevator music-ish, but I still feel like there's definitely a place for these types of toned down songs, def some late night type s***

Plus w songs like Virginia Beach, Slime You Out, Away from Home, Tried Our Best, album can't be too bad

but it def has skips depending on ur mood, theres those and also redeeming aspects

... I do think FATD was a sign that Drake needs to evolve though, the feeling sorry for yourself s*** is different from when youre a early 20 something fresh in the game and now like pushing 40 no pun intended

Cannot stand 21 Savage and Her Loss is still better than FATD

this proves drake should have taken a hiatus before dropping either of these mid projects

decent playlists with some great songs but yeah, definitely bottom 2 albums from drake

drums and vocal filters on FATD get jarring if you listen to the whole tape front to back

which rapper can still do songs like this so many years into his career though?

Even these songs + tried our best (some of the better material) on fatd felt muted and flat a little bit

like they could've been so much better

I still like the song but

rapping is top tier though

not expecting the weeknd level production from drake in 2024, good writing, melodies and rapping is enough for me

Ive found his albums boring AF for a minute now

No

At least FATD gave us Virginia Beach, one of the best songs released last year. so beautiful

fatd definitely a more relaxed album but i don't think that's a bad thing

which mainstream rapper can do songs like drew a picasso, away from home or tried out best in 2024?