do y’all think Beyoncé is up there with the likes of prince, mj, stevie etc?

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  • Jan 29, 2023
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    Warren Peace

    i’ve been saying for years that if she divorced that nigga, her stock would go UP

    it would probably even change the way society views divorced women. so many women would leave their man just because Bey did it lmao

    I work in EU Employment Law and we had to be brought up to speed about people leaving their jobs in lieu of notice because Beyoncé told them to

  • Jan 29, 2023
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    yes and it’s not a question either

  • Jan 29, 2023
    Noir

    I mean, it's pretty much always charting regardless of the situation

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2021/12/14/michael-jacksons-thriller-hits-500-weeks-on-billboards-albums-chart/

    also valid

    loving this debate

  • Jan 29, 2023
    TTU

    I work in EU Employment Law and we had to be brought up to speed about people leaving their jobs in lieu of notice because Beyoncé told them to

  • Jan 29, 2023
    Noir

    I mean, it's pretty much always charting regardless of the situation

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2021/12/14/michael-jacksons-thriller-hits-500-weeks-on-billboards-albums-chart/

    Sorry I missed this post. I wasn't disagree or insinuating, just reaffirming that the 40 year reissue came out at that time and it's amazing
    I believe Starlight itself also charted

  • Jan 29, 2023
    Warren Peace

    off impact alone, i wanna say MJ

    then Prince, then Stevie… but you can’t go wrong with any. they’re all top of the top and i wouldn’t be mad at anyone ranking them differently

    MJ for me too lol, probably the first artist I ever Stanned 😅

  • Jan 29, 2023

    Stevie and Prince are in their own tier of musicians beyond these other two

    MJ is more impactful than all of them, though. Just Stevie and Prince really producing their own albums and doing so much of the instrumentation alongside the songwriting is a lot for me.

  • Jan 29, 2023

    As great as she is & as iconic as she is

    For some reason I can’t place her with those names

    atleast not yet

  • Jan 29, 2023

    absolutely not

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    Sir Swagalot

    i'll say this

    l i think the fact that Beyonce doesn't do traditional rollouts slightly hinders her potential to be mentioned with the 3 in OP.

    Stevie, Prince, and MJ came from an era where they had to be more active with the promotion of their music because obviously radio and MTV were the predominant formats where people consumed music back in the day (im speaking about the average person). The music industry is a lot different now than it was then, and i think if you're not constantly in front of the cameras, active on socials or whatever, then sadly people will move on to the next thing (i'm not saying people will forget about Beyoncé, she's obviously still huge for a reason)

    Beyoncé can easily cook up some promotion that'd get her a lot more exposure nowadays with the masses...i think Renaissance could've been that album

    I think some of this is fair to say for Beyonce's recent outputs as a multi-decade veteran, but she also came up in a similar era tho and has already played that part well. She came up in 90s and 2000's

    Industry is different now like you said and i think that along with her having 3 kids now just made her approach it differently. It woulda bumped Renaissance up a notch sure but i think she'll pull something with the inevitable album vid or stadium tour. She hasn't left any studio album era yet without a major moment

    Like yall are using Prince and Stevie which are phenomenal acts but they fell out of mainstream eye or where on/off after a while too so its not exactly even to compare a Renaissance to Stevie's classic era or Prince's 80's

  • Jan 29, 2023

    In cultural impact, probably in the tier below them (probably close to Stevie, obv not MJ)

    Those are just the gold standards in terms of music talent though. With how streamlined music crafting is now, I don’t think we’ll ever see someone gush talent the way that generation and before did

  • Jan 29, 2023

    Beyonce is legendary but her run is not competing with Stevie's run

    Talking Book
    Music of My Mind
    Innervisions
    Fulfillingness First Finale
    Songs In The Key of Life
    Hotter Than July

    Barely anyone is coming close to that run

  • Jan 29, 2023
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    Y’all do agree Yonce is over Usher on the icons list tho right?

  • Jan 29, 2023
    Sir Swagalot

    i feel like the album would've been in the public consciousness more if the damn MVs dropped...the fast food era mentality is squandering the potential for successful rollouts

    Yeah the rollout has been an absolute mess since the release of the album. Her best album but worst era. BUT if she can re-ignite some of it by dropping the visuals, maybe she’ll have the last laugh, expanding the era beyond what is typical for the streaming era. Tour announcement and Grammys are gonna help as well, starting next week.

  • Jan 29, 2023
    Kdogone

    Y’all do agree Yonce is over Usher on the icons list tho right?

    this been known no shade to usher tho he a goat too

  • Jan 29, 2023

    In terms of quality of music no but stardom yes

  • Jan 29, 2023

    Yea for sure

  • Jan 29, 2023
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    MJ is very far above everybody else

    But I’d definitely put Beyoncé up there, she’s a cultural icon and one of the greatest ever. Slightly below Drake, however!

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Jan 29, 2023

    Absolutely

  • Jan 29, 2023
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    doot

    MJ is very far above everybody else

    But I’d definitely put Beyoncé up there, she’s a cultural icon and one of the greatest ever. Slightly below Drake, however!

    She dropped a WAYYY better house album than Drake so yeah she’s above homie

  • Jan 29, 2023
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    Experiment626

    She dropped a WAYYY better house album than Drake so yeah she’s above homie

    no way you fell for the bait.

  • Jan 29, 2023
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    F*** no.

    Think about it.

    Everyone wants to be Beyonce with her stardom, but what about her does folks recall or wish to replicate when they think of Beyonce?

    Don't get me started with iconic visuals or moments that goes with music hand in hand like Prince's purple rain, Nirvana Unplugged, Michael Jackson's entire thriller album music videos run.

    She doesn't hold a candle to these folks, she is a tier below.

    The fact so many listens to her and blindly does what she says without warning is very concerning imo, but oh well, whatever helps them sleep at night.

    She is a brand, nothing more at this point for the public

  • Jan 29, 2023
    Stop Alien Hate

    If the artists you mentioned are Tier 1, she’s Tier 1.5

  • Jan 29, 2023
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    With Prince, yes.

    MJ below them both

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