Sep 5, 2023·2 replies
iliasthe framing of this question is too divisive
Israel exists and Israeli people live there whether you agree with it or not.How can we ask the question that works in favor of the opressed Palestinians without creating unnecessary conflict
The Israeli people are just Europeans though
Ashkenazi Jews are Europeans
I'm okay with the concept of a Jewish state and even see it as a good thing, but settler-colonialism and fascism are categorically bad and Israel is the guiltiest country of both of these offenses in the modern world
As a practical matter, either a two-state solution needs to be enacted with the present Israeli government completely purged and prosecuted for crimes against humanity, or Israel and Palestine forming into a united socialist republic that overthrows Israeli fascism. There really is no other solution, besides the liquidation of the Israeli state and the deportation of "Israelis" back to Europe/the US, which itself carries a bevy of obstacles and problems and is probably a reactionary move
Sep 5, 2023i don’t have any clue
- Sep 5, 2023Skinn Foley
The Israeli people are just Europeans though
Ashkenazi Jews are Europeans
I'm okay with the concept of a Jewish state and even see it as a good thing, but settler-colonialism and fascism are categorically bad and Israel is the guiltiest country of both of these offenses in the modern world
As a practical matter, either a two-state solution needs to be enacted with the present Israeli government completely purged and prosecuted for crimes against humanity, or Israel and Palestine forming into a united socialist republic that overthrows Israeli fascism. There really is no other solution, besides the liquidation of the Israeli state and the deportation of "Israelis" back to Europe/the US, which itself carries a bevy of obstacles and problems and is probably a reactionary move
there you go
constructive, well thoughtout and well written discourse 
Sep 5, 2023·edited·1 replySkinn FoleyThe Israeli people are just Europeans though
Ashkenazi Jews are Europeans
I'm okay with the concept of a Jewish state and even see it as a good thing, but settler-colonialism and fascism are categorically bad and Israel is the guiltiest country of both of these offenses in the modern world
As a practical matter, either a two-state solution needs to be enacted with the present Israeli government completely purged and prosecuted for crimes against humanity, or Israel and Palestine forming into a united socialist republic that overthrows Israeli fascism. There really is no other solution, besides the liquidation of the Israeli state and the deportation of "Israelis" back to Europe/the US, which itself carries a bevy of obstacles and problems and is probably a reactionary move
Israeli and Ashkenazi are not synonymous
Mizrahim compose a plurality of Israeli Jews
Plus Sephardim are Middle Eastern basically
Plus Ethiopian Jews
Sep 5, 2023
xxxkiraxxxhell no
- Sep 5, 2023Ronin
Israeli and Ashkenazi are not synonymous
Mizrahim compose a plurality of Israeli Jews
Plus Sephardim are Middle Eastern basically
Plus Ethiopian Jews
I'm aware of the Sephardic situation and agree that Sephardic Jews are Levantines just as much as Palestinians are.
Ethiopia itself was ravaged by the west at the end of the Cold War and is still in disarray so in order to rectify the situation for Ethiopian Jews, Ethiopia itself needs to be uplifted out of the neocolonial hell it's been trapped in
- Sep 6, 2023
the IDF came into my house and murdered my entire family