I don’t see a problem with justice being celebrated, no. Most people are celebrating the verdict that brings justice, not that he is about to lose his life.
Absolutely nothing wrong with people cheering for this monster's death sentence.
There's no other consideration or variables left out from his actions. There are no missing pieces. There aren't reasonings left to be explored and uncovered.
That evil s*** deserves death, and even that sounds too easy.
On a level, I agree with you @op but at the same time the thing about these transformative justice and rehabilitation talks that I feel NEVER ever gets addressed (cause the whole topic as a whole is wrapped in idealism) is the fact that well as Stinkmeaner from the Boondocks once said
"Some niggas just need to go to jail."
Which as a black man saying that, that s*** is a real painful pill to swallow. But some of these niggas are just...not reachable and are truly an individual plague to society.
And Dylan hasn't even once shown remorse, has repeatedly said he's not sorry for what he did. It would be maybe one thing if like....he got reached out and converted or some type of s*** and understood the errors of his ways and redemption can happen.
But this "rehabiliation" s*** is a two way street. If you not gonna show remorse for committing a massacre in the name of racism and hatred for a group of people? I'm sorry. You deserve everything including the chair and best believe I will celebrate. The same way I'll celebrate the day Zimmerman kicks the bucket.
Hypocrite? Yeah. I believe in prison rehabilitation but I'm sorry when the idea of prison abolition comes into mind and I gotta imagine a world where the K Rellys and Dylan Roofs are just free to breathe the same air that I can breathe? I throw up inside bruh.
F*** em.
As bad as it sounds I believe in an eye for an eye and that is probably the only way we can prevent crimes like that one happening again.
It’s also crazy that there’s still countries where you can get sentenced more for weed than for killing somebody
As bad as it sounds I believe in an eye for an eye and that is probably the only way we can prevent crimes like that one happening again.
The only way to prevent crimes like this happening again is to have a conversation about the source of it.
If last year showed anything, America's never gonna do that.
Rather him rot in prison for the rest of his life than being left off the hook imo
Nobody should be allowed to take anybody's life
When you think about it rotting in prison for life is much worse than instant DP
When you think about it rotting in prison for life is much worse than instant DP
I mean yes and no? You learn to adapt and accept whatever reality you're placed in. Not like it would be daily torture, just an environment like any other that gets routine. Death is the end all, it's nothing something a lot of people go into easily. Why do you think they appeal death sentence for years on years? It's not because death sounds more lucrative than prison lockdown.
fr what does someone getting executed have to do with revenge p***?
think they meant like revenge as p*** (like food p*** etc.) instead of revenge p*** (porn as revenge)
think they meant like revenge as p*** (like food p*** etc.) instead of revenge p*** (porn as revenge)
ohhhhhhhhhhh
I think even morally righteous people have a certain bloodlust but one that’s reserved for people society agrees are beyond redemption, terrorists rapists pedophiles etc
But I think it’s just a way of justifiably channeling something that, at its core, is an evil instinct
Watching executions fr used to be a great source of entertainment for the common man. And that was the case for thousands of years. Kinda crazy to think about
How is the death penalty morally unethical
Why waste time and money incarcerating pieces of s*** like him
I mean it depends on your ethics but this is an interesting take on it
theconversation.com/death-penalty-is-capital-punishment-morally-justified-42970
This will be a controversial example, but hopefully we're capable of following the idea and not getting caught up in emotional reactions...
That punk who killed several people in a church is officially going to be executed. In one way, good. He's a piece of s*** who has zero remorse and is clearly f***ed in the head.
On the other hand, is it not a little...strange to you when you see all the people cheering over the decision? Not that it's hypocritical but just kind of... Idk. Acting like it's a celebration or something to see another human killed, even if what he did was f***ing wrong. Doesn't it feel like we're fighting fire with more fire? Doesn't it feel a little primitive to you? Morbid?
And as a society we never get to the "deeper" conversations to be had in situations like this. We never grow or learn from it, we just move onto the next day's trauma. It always stays kinda unresolved and pushed into the corners of the mind until something similar inevitably happens again. It's like a hellish cycle with zero self-reflection along the way.
Or am I the weird one?
It’s just how humans are. That’s why our legal system is so incredible (despite. A lot of problems) in that it’s designed to take revenge, personal feelings and human emotions out of the picture. People genuinely don’t understand how radical that is when weighed in the scope of human history
You could murder half the people in the us and under our system would still get due process, a lawyer, and be presumed innocent before guilty. Miranda rights etc.
We need to protect our legal system cuz it’s all made up, it’s more fragile than it lloks
On a level, I agree with you @op but at the same time the thing about these transformative justice and rehabilitation talks that I feel NEVER ever gets addressed (cause the whole topic as a whole is wrapped in idealism) is the fact that well as Stinkmeaner from the Boondocks once said
"Some niggas just need to go to jail."
Which as a black man saying that, that s*** is a real painful pill to swallow. But some of these niggas are just...not reachable and are truly an individual plague to society.
And Dylan hasn't even once shown remorse, has repeatedly said he's not sorry for what he did. It would be maybe one thing if like....he got reached out and converted or some type of s*** and understood the errors of his ways and redemption can happen.
But this "rehabiliation" s*** is a two way street. If you not gonna show remorse for committing a massacre in the name of racism and hatred for a group of people? I'm sorry. You deserve everything including the chair and best believe I will celebrate. The same way I'll celebrate the day Zimmerman kicks the bucket.
Hypocrite? Yeah. I believe in prison rehabilitation but I'm sorry when the idea of prison abolition comes into mind and I gotta imagine a world where the K Rellys and Dylan Roofs are just free to breathe the same air that I can breathe? I throw up inside bruh.
F*** em.
I mean, it depends on the interpretation from individuals but generally in antisocial crime, from a prison abolition perspective, the individuals will be isolated away and rehabilitated and you also have to take into account, what's the root cause of the violent outcomes, and horrific acts? Anti-social behavior tends to rise from alienation with material conditions/environment or the person is just mentally sick or both.
Nah, 05 f*** em
Classic
I felt the same way when I saw people cheering, it's definitely barbaric, the whole situation is an unfortunate vortex of s***
With that being said, f*** dude