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  • Prez 💎
    Nov 11, 2022
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    Tobacky

    So what is the existence after our life on earth ends?

    it's unknowable. even though it seems like you're living this moment right now, and the past is past and the future is yet to happen, you might be living every moment of your life at all times. or maybe living it in a perpetual loop. idk.

  • Nov 11, 2022
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    Prez

    it's unknowable. even though it seems like you're living this moment right now, and the past is past and the future is yet to happen, you might be living every moment of your life at all times. or maybe living it in a perpetual loop. idk.

    Wait what? So I’m still living the past and the future? Huh or the future has already happened?

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    Nov 11, 2022
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    Tobacky

    This makes me sad and hopeful at the same time

    to some extent, even consciousness has to be a makeup of atoms. whether that's human consciousness or animal or plant consciousness, it's all just atoms, or some even smaller or unknown substance that we aren't privy to yet. so while yes something happens when someone dies and their consciousness shuts off, the atoms themselves don't go away. they get absorbed into the universe (in our case the earth) and go on to do other things.

  • Nov 11, 2022
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    Prez

    the idea of after-life is flawed. not trying to use fiction to make my point but I believe in some true detective szn 1 or Loki type s***, meaning our perception of time as linear is not the whole story. life and after life only makes sense conceptually based on linear time. so yea I believe there is more to our existence than this life, but I don't think of it in the way of "after life"

    i like true detective because in the end rust abandons his pessimism

  • Nov 11, 2022
    Prez

    to some extent, even consciousness has to be a makeup of atoms. whether that's human consciousness or animal or plant consciousness, it's all just atoms, or some even smaller or unknown substance that we aren't privy to yet. so while yes something happens when someone dies and their consciousness shuts off, the atoms themselves don't go away. they get absorbed into the universe (in our case the earth) and go on to do other things.

    Goddamn man how old are you? This too complex for me lol

  • Prez 💎
    Nov 11, 2022
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    Tobacky

    Wait what? So I’m still living the past and the future? Huh or the future has already happened?

    well yea, if you could step outside of time (the 4th dimension), things would look a lot differently. but it's impossible for us to perceive how it would look since we live in the 4th dimension i.e. we are beings who perceive time linearly.

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    Nov 11, 2022
    maxx

    i like true detective because in the end rust abandons his pessimism

    yea he converts to the belief of an afterlife at the end, but I think the theories posed before that are interesting too

  • Nov 11, 2022
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    Prez

    well yea, if you could step outside of time (the 4th dimension), things would look a lot differently. but it's impossible for us to perceive how it would look since we live in the 4th dimension i.e. we are beings who perceive time linearly.

    So outside the 4th dimension we would know what the future holds for us?

  • Nov 11, 2022
    americana

    Don’t need one don’t want one

  • Prez 💎
    Nov 11, 2022
    Tobacky

    So outside the 4th dimension we would know what the future holds for us?

    outside the 4th dimension past and future would be one

  • Nov 11, 2022

    if you are wicked, no

    if you are good and humble, yes

    but its nothing like you would ever imagine

  • ghosting ®️
    Nov 11, 2022

    im going to eaven

  • Nov 11, 2022
    Tobacky

    But what if your peace is to be reunited with your loved ones?

    Everyone got they own version of what peace is to them. Peace to me would to finally experience nothing/silence after non stop thoughts for however much time i got left here.

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    Tobacky

    So depressing! Imagine grinding all these years just to end to sudden darkness forever

    cc @KFA

    I can’t live my life hanging on an unknown “maybe” that would require me to submit my entire known life to experiencing it. What if it ends up that there’s no afterlife and my work was wasted, just like you said? I wasted my life for nothing!

    No! I know that I am here and I am alive now. All my cards are on the table, I know that I have my agency, my self power, and my goals. Everything I do now should be to be the best person I am in this life. I make sure I enjoy every day, I make sure I do work that I enjoy, work that helps my family, work that helps my community, work that helps the world. But I will never submit myself to my work. Because there is NO excuse to suffer anymore.

    My passed loved ones may be gone and it’s a bummer, but an afterlife would only make me long for their presence more. These days I take the time to appreciate what they left behind. They may not be here, but everything they did has had an irreversible effect on me and the world around me and being able to appreciate that has made me much less sad about their loss, especially the ones who loved king and fulfilling lives.

    It’s just made me a much more proactive, decisive, appreciative, outgoing, and more positive person because what I am here for is my own experience, my own health, and my own nurturing as I know it

  • Nov 11, 2022
    Tobacky

    So depressing! Imagine grinding all these years just to end to sudden darkness forever

    Bro some people are struggling IN THIS LIFE. Nevermind an afterlife

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    I don't know, reincarnation and an infinite loop sounds exhausting yet sudden darkness forever sounds scary. Just be the best person and enjoy your time on the planet, whatever happens next, happens, that's for another time to worry.

  • ghosting ®️
    Nov 11, 2022
    Tobacky

    So depressing! Imagine grinding all these years just to end to sudden darkness forever

    its not grinding its living

  • ghosting ®️
    Nov 11, 2022

    imagine living all these years

  • Nov 11, 2022
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    the other side of a loop is another loop

  • ghosting ®️
    Nov 11, 2022
    Tobacky

    Wait what? So I’m still living the past and the future? Huh or the future has already happened?

    u living in the present, the past and the future don't exist

  • Nov 11, 2022
    fakerickhoodie

    yea ktt3

  • Prez 💎
    Nov 11, 2022
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    Campari

    I don't know, reincarnation and an infinite loop sounds exhausting yet sudden darkness forever sounds scary. Just be the best person and enjoy your time on the planet, whatever happens next, happens, that's for another time to worry.

    it wouldn't be exhausting because you wouldn't be aware of it

  • ghosting ®️
    Nov 11, 2022
    americana

    cc @KFA

    I can’t live my life hanging on an unknown “maybe” that would require me to submit my entire known life to experiencing it. What if it ends up that there’s no afterlife and my work was wasted, just like you said? I wasted my life for nothing!

    No! I know that I am here and I am alive now. All my cards are on the table, I know that I have my agency, my self power, and my goals. Everything I do now should be to be the best person I am in this life. I make sure I enjoy every day, I make sure I do work that I enjoy, work that helps my family, work that helps my community, work that helps the world. But I will never submit myself to my work. Because there is NO excuse to suffer anymore.

    My passed loved ones may be gone and it’s a bummer, but an afterlife would only make me long for their presence more. These days I take the time to appreciate what they left behind. They may not be here, but everything they did has had an irreversible effect on me and the world around me and being able to appreciate that has made me much less sad about their loss, especially the ones who loved king and fulfilling lives.

    It’s just made me a much more proactive, decisive, appreciative, outgoing, and more positive person because what I am here for is my own experience, my own health, and my own nurturing as I know it

    real

  • Nov 11, 2022
    Prez

    it wouldn't be exhausting because you wouldn't be aware of it

    I don't know that. Maybe we do?

  • Yes, but only because I still need to see Tupac live