Dec 21, 2024
TheObeseHeartpt6ixRight. There some revisionist history going on in this thread. Tons of the popping female rappers were getting accused of being plants, including ice spice and sexxyred. Ice spice especially. I don’t know if that happened in this site though.
Besides that, doechii is a refreshing artist has been releasing music for a while. Also she’s signed to a major label so it’s their job to get her in as much eyes as possible.Revisionist history and group think is what majority of this site is nowadays
Dec 21, 2024
Snowboy
Deli a classic song now and forever
butterfly ku, popa & b**** i’m packing the only ones i can tolerate
she might be one of the least interesting rappers ever ngl
Dec 21, 2024·3 replies
MidzyWHAT
You could gauge organic reactions way better back then, and wasn't so one sided on the artistic spectrum at that time. Vs someone like Doechii, where you can feel the aggressive marketing push on social media, with very little real world gauge on her popularity
Dec 21, 2024·1 replygnarlynastyMan, Prince had to go off on MTV execs, basically by himself, at a f***ing music video convention, to get them to play his videos back then in the early-mid 80s. He was on the verge of being a popstar, what you think a rapper had?
at that time, rappers had being a new genre so acts like public enemy were getting a f***ing push that in 2024, any acts that even would dare even think about being just a tad political would NEVER get lmaooo
Dec 21, 2024·2 repliesallstarexactly lol. and no disrespect to shorty but ice spice is borderline unlistenable lol. no charisma, no variety, no bars, no stage presence.
makes it even more obvious that the industry was pushing her SO hard. same could be said for every white boy of the month these past few years
they finally push somebody that sounds like they deserve the push and niggas mad
like you said, we know why tho
Ice Spice makes fun stuff but her debut album really showed how undercooked she is artistically tbh, s*** didn’t have a lot going for it in all honesty
Dec 21, 2024I'm just more interested in why some of yall choose who to throw these labels on and who not to cause legit everything being said can apply to damn near every artists of the last 20 years ESPECIALLY since the streaming era
Hell the last mass "organic" come up I can remember in rap was during the the SoundCloud era and eventually the labels got their hands on that too
- Dec 21, 2024·1 replygnarlynasty
You could gauge organic reactions way better back then, and wasn't so one sided on the artistic spectrum at that time. Vs someone like Doechii, where you can feel the aggressive marketing push on social media, with very little real world gauge on her popularity
or you're just older and not in the demographic that is actually outside in this modern era.
I saw doechii pack out a whole crowd at columbia university a year ago man
- Dec 21, 2024X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z
Ice Spice makes fun stuff but her debut album really showed how undercooked she is artistically tbh, s*** didn’t have a lot going for it in all honesty
RT.
also, her best song will always be No Clarity (shoutout to KIN the original Ice Spice stan)
@Snowboy 
Dec 21, 2024gnarlynastyYou could gauge organic reactions way better back then, and wasn't so one sided on the artistic spectrum at that time. Vs someone like Doechii, where you can feel the aggressive marketing push on social media, with very little real world gauge on her popularity
You just sound like someone who never knew who Doechii was until this year.
- Dec 21, 2024·1 replygnarlynasty
You could gauge organic reactions way better back then, and wasn't so one sided on the artistic spectrum at that time. Vs someone like Doechii, where you can feel the aggressive marketing push on social media, with very little real world gauge on her popularity
Back in 2012 it was a bit different, they didn't have social media like that. Kendrick got the same push, he was on SNL performing Swimming Pools and probably every mainstream media platform.
Dec 21, 2024·1 replygnarlynastyKinda sad that there'll never really be another Kendrick Lamar/GKMC situation. Mainstream media wasn't anywhere near checking for Kendrick, even when Swimming Pools dropped, only rap circles were checking for his (major label)debut. Then GKMC leaked, the music and message just hit hard, it transcended Hip Hop cause of how great it was, and how it had people talking about it.
Back then, I knew an album was a classic/transcendent when street/trap guys, or white kids, were checking for new Kanye/Kendrick/Wayne, cause the media told them "this is the pinnacle of Hip Hop. You can argue TPAB, but GKMC just felt like the last rap album to make people really pay attention and respect Hip Hop as an artform, not another music genre trying to sale itself into oblivion.
Kinda sad that there'll never really be another Kendrick Lamar/GKMC situation. Mainstream media wasn't anywhere near checking for Kendrick, even when Swimming Pools dropped, only rap circles were checking for his (major label)debut. Then GKMC leaked, the music and message just hit hard, it transcended Hip Hop cause of how great it was, and how it had people talking about it.
Back then, I knew an album was a classic/transcendent when street/trap guys, or white kids, were checking for new Kanye/Kendrick/Wayne, cause the media told them "this is the pinnacle of Hip Hop
So which paragraph is it cause it can’t be both
- Dec 21, 2024X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z
Ice Spice makes fun stuff but her debut album really showed how undercooked she is artistically tbh, s*** didn’t have a lot going for it in all honesty
i just feel like there’s already an overwhelming amount of rappers that just make fun music and so many of them do it better than her lol
her delivery alone is enough for me lmao
she constantly sounds like she’s just trying to rap for the first time in her life lol
Dec 21, 2024
paradise valleyNot to sound like one of those people on twitter, but this thread specifically was only made because she's a woman
We have here people discussing a bunch of irrelevant male rappers than spawned out of nowhere with s***ty music, but Doechii has been dropping music for a few years now, building an audience, got signed to a major label in 2022 and now she's getting bigger on mainstream and suddenly it's "inorganic"
- Dec 21, 2024insertcoolnamehere
at that time, rappers had being a new genre so acts like public enemy were getting a f***ing push that in 2024, any acts that even would dare even think about being just a tad political would NEVER get lmaooo
PE was in the right market(NY) at the right time. Def Jam being mostly a rap label at the time, couldn't afford to many losses, so they really had to believe in PE and their music. In 2024, I doubt any execs know what to believe at this point, they just know what sells, and if you do what sells, your gonna be put on, as long as you keep selling.
- Dec 21, 2024·2 replies
Y’all don’t find the push and appearances inorganic y’all find the liking for her inorganic
- Dec 21, 2024insertcoolnamehere
or you're just older and not in the demographic that is actually outside in this modern era.
I saw doechii pack out a whole crowd at columbia university a year ago man
I agree with that, im not that old (28) but I don't f*** with too much s*** out there.
- Dec 21, 2024
Niggas be envious about the idea of artists being unfairly liked
Dec 21, 2024been fw her for 2 years
- Dec 21, 2024·1 replygnarlynasty
Kinda sad that there'll never really be another Kendrick Lamar/GKMC situation. Mainstream media wasn't anywhere near checking for Kendrick, even when Swimming Pools dropped, only rap circles were checking for his (major label)debut. Then GKMC leaked, the music and message just hit hard, it transcended Hip Hop cause of how great it was, and how it had people talking about it.
Back then, I knew an album was a classic/transcendent when street/trap guys, or white kids, were checking for new Kanye/Kendrick/Wayne, cause the media told them "this is the pinnacle of Hip Hop. You can argue TPAB, but GKMC just felt like the last rap album to make people really pay attention and respect Hip Hop as an artform, not another music genre trying to sale itself into oblivion.
You spend too much time on the internet.
- Dec 21, 2024Mr Motion
You spend too much time on the internet.
Actually, I've been spending way less time lol. I'm a busy dude these days, im just stuck in my ways I guess. Been thinking about calling it quits on this site, I've lost touch.
- Dec 21, 2024BRAVE
Y’all don’t find the push and appearances inorganic y’all find the liking for her inorganic
Dec 21, 2024·3 repliesMidzyBack in 2012 it was a bit different, they didn't have social media like that. Kendrick got the same push, he was on SNL performing Swimming Pools and probably every mainstream media platform.
Think it was slightly different with Kendrick because he had a body of work prior to Swimming Pools. Like he actually had a pretty dedicated and sizeable following off OD and Section.80.
Now one can say that was a result of the blog era and artists going on college campus tours. Something that you don't really get much of these days. But from what I remember at least, people heard of Kendrick Lamar before Swimming Pools.
Dec 21, 2024i think she’s a damn fine artist and have been waiting for this blow up since i heard her on Wat U Sed by zay
- Dec 21, 2024BRAVE
Kinda sad that there'll never really be another Kendrick Lamar/GKMC situation. Mainstream media wasn't anywhere near checking for Kendrick, even when Swimming Pools dropped, only rap circles were checking for his (major label)debut. Then GKMC leaked, the music and message just hit hard, it transcended Hip Hop cause of how great it was, and how it had people talking about it.
Back then, I knew an album was a classic/transcendent when street/trap guys, or white kids, were checking for new Kanye/Kendrick/Wayne, cause the media told them "this is the pinnacle of Hip Hop
So which paragraph is it cause it can’t be both
Great music should cross over, not be boxed in. Special albums achieved that
Dec 21, 2024BRAVEY’all don’t find the push and appearances inorganic y’all find the liking for her inorganic
exactly this. They aren’t high on her and because of that they don’t understand why others are.