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  • Aug 31, 2021
    Very Peaceful

    Man he NEEDS to fix that lag on those “Hiiii with a bunch of i’s, or heyyyy with a bunch of y’s” lines on New Again

    Sounds like someone recorded that verse while they were on a phone call with Ye and he was spitting it into his iPhone but the WiFi was lagging

    That verse trash anyway

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    lol @ the pop smoke bit

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    Is this different on YouTube Music?

  • Sep 1, 2021

    Off The Grid sounds cleaner

  • Sep 1, 2021
    REO Speedwagon

    lol @ the pop smoke bit

    Why does it still sound like they recorded the song off an iphone then spliced together clips

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    Very Peaceful

    Man he NEEDS to fix that lag on those “Hiiii with a bunch of i’s, or heyyyy with a bunch of y’s” lines on New Again

    Sounds like someone recorded that verse while they were on a phone call with Ye and he was spitting it into his iPhone but the WiFi was lagging

    pretty sure that's intentional. i kinda like the sound there

  • Sep 1, 2021
    OGThuggaJohnson

    Ye needs to fix the choir cutting off on hurricane

    nah, that’s a cool touch. I really like how he did that

  • Sep 1, 2021
    JoePuzzy

    Is this different on YouTube Music?

    probably not, remember how nav's verse on yosemite sounded when astroworld dropped but it was later fixed? not here

    2:00

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    heaven and hell choir doesn't hit like it did before

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    KingOfPop

    heaven and hell choir doesn't hit like it did before

    ?

  • Sep 1, 2021
    scumbag

    ?

    There’s a change to the choir coming in but I’m not sure if it’s what’s mentioned in OP or from over listening to the listening party version

  • Sep 2, 2021
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    hot pancakes

    I posted this in the Donda thread a few hours ago. From the Leak Site so these might not be 100% accurate

    THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, THIS WAS COPY AND PASTED FROM THE LEAK SITE AND REDDIT

    credits to @sab for this:

    this is what i got earlier btw for proof

    this is every FLAC downloaded upon initial release inverted over every FLAC i downloaded earlier today, all in one bc i was too lazy to do all 27 separately

    you can see the changes were all in the 3kHz and below range (everything above is just white noise created by 27 different tracks playing on top of each other)

    will update when more changes are pushed through & i have access to the FLACs


    Jesus Lord
    • Wow there’s a stereo spread
      makes it sound so much more powerful

    • ye‘s vocals are also turned up
      his syllables are more aggressive possibly parrell compressed??
      sub bass sounds more percussive

    • claps are also more apparent

    • jay electronica
      has the same treatment as kanye’s

    • choir is also layered better

    • Larry Hoover jr
      is also mixed better


    Donda
    • has a directional mixer
      the piano is now more present in the right channel
      vocals are either down the middle or to the left channel

    • vocals are now more visible in the mix


    Keep My Spirit Alive
    • Synths pads now turned up
      drums eq is better hi hats are more apparent

    • vocals after kaycyy’s need adjusting especially ye’s


    24
    • Choir Has had Mike dean treatment
      eq is much better

    • also more on time with organ

    • choir is abruptly cut at the end (part they do at the end usually goes for another bar)


    Moon
    • Guitars are layered so much better
      Kid Cudi is also sounding better compression wise

    • Kid Cudi’s adlibs are now more apparent

    • don is the same


    Heaven and Hell
    • Kanye is mixed better
      so is the bass

    • the choir drop doesn’t make you deaf anymore 📷

    • claps are more apparent and so is the kick drum


    We Made It
    • piano has better eq and has a stereo spread

    • pop smoke sounds awful


    Lord I Need You
    • bass is more visble choir is turned down a bit
      the pad synths low-key feel like drinking warm milk

    • the steel drum is now on beat

    • Kanye sounds better he could be turned up 2db


    Pure Souls
    • organ sounds better, turned down until Kanye’s verse
      then when Kanye comes in they added a sub bass

    • they added another organ when Kanye
      talks about feeding the clan
      automation on the synths

    • makes it sound great

    • 808s are mixed better so they don’t sound like a beginner edit

    • claps are also better but sound like midi

    • there is now delay on the women vocal
      with more reverb

    • organ is also more apparent in this section
      sounds like more adlibs where added


    No Child Left Behind
    • synths and pads are mixed a lot better
      sounds like there is another synth tucked under them all
      Sub bass is more visible

    • vocals are mixed very well, vory vocals sound like melted butter

    • kanye is now mixed with a touch of reverb


    Junya
    • sounds like there is a bit crusher on Kanye’s vocal
      bass goes crazy
      organ is more or less the same

    • carti sounds so much better


    God Breathed
    • sub bass is tamed with a limiter
      bit crusher on Kanye vocals

    • vory sounds like he has Mike dean treatment

    • the sample from the OG now fits better
      choir now is not overtaking the whole mix
      due to there being a stereo spread adding more ceiling to it.

    • sounds like there is an additional bass in parts that sounds wet (yes that is a mixing term)
      underneath the sub

    • kanye vocals need heavy work


    Off the Grid
    • vocals haven’t changed very much
      instruments like drums and bass are more apparent

    • bass is tamed with a limiter and is not so dirty/distorted

    • Fivio is not overtaking the mix
      sounds like extra adlibs on some of his lyrics
      for example

    • ”if you got a voice then you gotta project it”
      has now got a double vocal

    • still Kanye mumble


    Hurricane
    • sounds still like it’s got a clipping Issues on the intro
      Og beat is now mixed better with organ

    • hi hats are resampled

    • the weeknd sounds like he has more reverb

    • Kanye’s
      MmMM Mm mm

    • is now in time
      He sounds pretty quiet in the mix


    Praise God
    • 808s are no longer like This

    • Travis is mixed well
      especially his Adlibs

    • so is Donda‘s in to the night ( i think it’s more in time since it’s now solo without ye or trav saying it to)

    • hi hats are more apparent

    • Baby keem is still outside
      Jokes aside his vocals are more compressed, fitting better With The track


    Jonah
    • vory‘s hook is now eq’ed much better
      breathing synth vox thingy is now more apparent in the mix

    • heart beat Monitor is now mixed better so it doesn’t sound out of place

    • 808s bass resampled since they aren’t so intrusive they are more subby now

    • the telephone vocal outro thing transition is updated with a sweep

    • but still sounds out of place


    Ok Ok
    • Distorted 808s are now more apparent
      along with the detuned loop, it also stops and comes back into the instrumental

    • Kanye sounds like he has COVID but has a better mixed vocals

    • hums are now more in time with the bass
      he also sounds great.

    • lil yachty is now mixed better
      he has ad libs on ye‘s last verse


    Where the 'new' FLAC's from? I inverted them from various sources and found them to all be identical.

  • Sep 2, 2021
    JIKBestAlbum

    pretty sure that's intentional. i kinda like the sound there

    it sounds cool I honestly don’t want it to be changed

  • Sep 2, 2021

    We Made It
    piano has better eq and has a stereo spread
    pop smoke sounds awful

  • Sep 2, 2021
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    Lard

    i am convinced that all of this 100% imagined

  • doggy springsteen

    One dude who was interviewing a mixer for the album, said the changes were cap

  • sabbaroni 🧔🏻
    Sep 2, 2021
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    GradBear

    Where the 'new' FLAC's from? I inverted them from various sources and found them to all be identical.

    sourced my original FLACs from Deezer before Jail Pt 2 went up

    used a new rip downloaded maybe a day later, there was just a little filter on it that lowered frequencies below 3kHz (which is pretty common, happens to albums all the time without people noticing, not even worth calling it a v1.1), but none of the changes op mentioned

    still have yet to verify any of the changes in op

  • Sep 2, 2021

    ayyyy i can actually notice a few of these changes. some for the better, a couple for the worse. don't need the bitcrushers on ye's vocals tbh

  • Sep 2, 2021
    sabbaroni

    sourced my original FLACs from Deezer before Jail Pt 2 went up

    used a new rip downloaded maybe a day later, there was just a little filter on it that lowered frequencies below 3kHz (which is pretty common, happens to albums all the time without people noticing, not even worth calling it a v1.1), but none of the changes op mentioned

    still have yet to verify any of the changes in op

    Can confirm

    Looks like the files were changed the morning of release. Like when Jail Pt 2 went up

    I don't have the ear to spot changes, but here's "Ok Ok Pt. 2" to show people how slightly different the mix can be

    onlyfiles.cc/f2/b6EvAkaFv93OUOO

    Used two different versions. Both lossless. Inverted one, mixed together and exported in Audacity

    Also, doing a bit-comparison between the WAV files will show differences

  • Sep 2, 2021

    Yea jt is

  • Now you can hear hi hats on Jonah bleeding thru the mic smh

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Sep 2, 2021
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    Confirmed with my private trackers nerds

    Nothing has changed on any platform

  • Sep 2, 2021
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    Kr0niic

    Confirmed with my private trackers nerds

    Nothing has changed on any platform

    Are you on RED?

    There definitely was some differences between when the album was first released and Jail pt 2 was added.

    It's either a very slight mix change or the original upload was watermarked by UMG