You were definetely born last decade

His top artists alone tells you how much he knows about hip hop before 2010 lol

I mean it's not a tough feat

Jay Z has classics.

Yeah but Jay a universal respected legend. Keep the more hits

because the culture of hip hop revolves around cultural anecdotes

you cant quantize or objectively make stats about what a record did to the club or individual cities or just the overall hip hop zeitgeist besides what we can tell from one time single purchase record sales, meanwhile the nature of streaming is that your "record sales" come from songs being played over and over exponentially

you can game radio and playlists and multi-decade label relationships along with a good degree of the snowball that Drake has become from said things and good music, that isn't necessarily more valuable information about how two different artists are consumed

but its also that what used to be one time sales are composed of the natural effect of time and people playing songs over and over so its not a good metric to say "this sold more or reached the charts more times so its automatically more important"

Niggas in here just throwing out what Jigga My Nigga or Can I Get A or any of those numerous pre Blueprint records when we were in our infant years did in the Tunnel because girls like dancehall beats

This is why people don't like newer hip hop fans y'all just d***ride whatevers popping for the sake of it without actually giving a f*** about the culture or its history lol

This the reason I don’t debate with NY niggas. They give Hov accolades he haven’t earned. Hov don’t even have as much hits as Kanye.

Drake has more radio hits than Jay != Drake has more hits than Jay.

I agree with you that it's not perfectly quantifiable. But when we subcategorise it to "radio" then we have to give the numbers more precedence.

When it's broadened to hits, Jay gets a lot of the edge back. Because it's starts to feed into the cultural value and feeling.

Hov is my favourite rapper period but Drake easily has more hits

jayzs discog is so bloated ud think hed have a more hits under his belt

Drake the most hated artist on KTT lmao. You can’t say anything positive about drake without someone like you popping up calling “dick riding”

Drake and Kanye have more hits than Jay Z

Love HOV but Drake, ye, and Wayne individually got more hits than him

Hov has one billboard number one and he got that with a gimmick aww anthem to the most important city in the world.

Yea I've never heard Jay Z on the radio unless it was that Jermaine Dupri song or Big Pimpin

This goes both ways. The stans are def worst than the haters.

How so? I think people are just more comfortable with hate. Especially when it comes to drake.

Also generally in media drake is 10x more scrunitised than his peers so stans always active

I do agree that most people lack context behind the numbers. A hit can chart high one week, fall off a few weeks later, but still be a hit bc of its peak position. This is amplified by the streaming era bc most big artists albums can chart just bc of the hype of the album and artist alone.

Streaming makes it easier to chart and that really cant be argued imo.

Now, what is interesting is Jay Z made the statement "Men Lie, Women Lie, Numbers Don't" that became the common law in Rap. So now people will only look at the raw numbers without any context and nuance. Now that is working against Jay Z bc Drake does appear far more dominant when you only look at the numbers alone, in any metric really.

But people have to realize it will always be easier for a Rapper that sings and has an appeal palatable to the era than a pure rapper. 50 Cent, Nelly, Ja Rule, and Outkast were making bigger hits and bigger albums than Jay in their time for those reasons as well imo.

He ain’t wrong

And jay has way more classic projects than drake

The mods are drake stans. His useless threads never get locked. His “hate” threads get closed with the quickness.