Fire/smoke in Calabasas in 2016 - 4pm in Calabasas
Fire/smoke in Canada in 2023 - another heater on the way
everywhere outside in nyc smells like someoneâs grilling something in the vicinity
I never compared his discog w drake. But to deny tyler music has been impactful to rap is almost like u been blind to a whole scene of rap for past years lol like I said I'm not even a big fan of him but it's pretty undeniable he and odd future are impactful
He brought back edginess which was something that was missing when he came out and dj drama but his music ainât impactful well it is but to ever be considered something top 10 or even brought up with top 50
Buddy spilling it all on March 14th and Emotionless I don't see how something that emotive isn't close to peak drake. That's literally what he's made a career out of. If that ain't peak drake then what is?
Mans is showing genuine gratitude to the point of disbelief at how his life has turned out in Elevate. Again, if that isn't peak drake then what is?
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It ainât all about the emotions lol itâs not peak drake musically. Elevate is pretty half baked compared to actual peak drake which has better production than that. And I ainât say it wasnât close but itâs not peak
You say all this but if I defended another artist by saying âoh thereâs so much gratitude and honestyâ yâall would be like âbut you canât play that outsideâ lol. That s*** alone does not make it peak drake
Emotionless was kind of corny to me and is mostly forgotten. March 14th maybe Iâll give you. And I think Is There More, IMF, After Dark, Canât Take a Joke, and more are peak drake but the others nah. Thereâs a good amount of peak drake on the album but thereâs a lot of joints that feel rushed and focus too much on the beef
Calling Elevate peak just because heâs being grateful is sicko s***. And I liked the melody on that joint but PEAK? You might just be misusing that word
I'm not. Tyler is a mainstream rapper, yes? That's why I specifically asked for 5 of his songs that were impactful in mainstream rap to be listed and it has nothing to do with hits.
Never said he doesn't make good music or doesn't have good albums or isn't a good musician. People in here were saying his discography is better than Drake's and that's where I got lost.
Heâs not really a mainstream rapper tbh
Flower Boy/IGOR had more impact with the niche subset of rap fans than with mainstream rap audiences imo.
Flower Boy dropped in 2017 but projects like DAMN, More Life, Culture, 4:44, Luv Is Rage 2, Future, etc had a lot more impact and were more visible even in terms of debates/discussions in the mainstream rap space.
Thatâs funny cause I remember Flower Boy ranking higher at the end of the year lists in 2017 so once again it seems like you do in fact equate impact with mainstream success/hits
Thatâs funny cause I remember Flower Boy ranking higher at the end of the year lists in 2017 so once again it seems like you do in fact equate impact with mainstream success/hits
Oh brother đĽ´. It's cool.
It ainât all about the emotions lol itâs not peak drake musically. Elevate is pretty half baked compared to actual peak drake which has better production than that. And I ainât say it wasnât close but itâs not peak
You say all this but if I defended another artist by saying âoh thereâs so much gratitude and honestyâ yâall would be like âbut you canât play that outsideâ lol. That s*** alone does not make it peak drake
Emotionless was kind of corny to me and is mostly forgotten. March 14th maybe Iâll give you. And I think Is There More, IMF, After Dark, Canât Take a Joke, and more are peak drake but the others nah. Thereâs a good amount of peak drake on the album but thereâs a lot of joints that feel rushed and focus too much on the beef
Calling Elevate peak just because heâs being grateful is sicko s***. And I liked the melody on that joint but PEAK? You might just be misusing that word
what do you think peak drake is in your opinion (outside scorpion)
This is true and fair, except the highs on Drakeâs albums are much, much higher than the highs on any of those Kanye albums
Ye & JIK, yes.
Donda, no. The highs on there >>>>> the highs on every Drake project from 2018-2021
You know an artist's discography isn't just their albums, right?
Iâll be honest Iâve always equated an artistâs albums as their discography. I donât count features or loosies as part of that.
You know an artist's discography isn't just their albums, right?
If you gotta keep hiding behind this, youâre kinda losing lol
âDrake has the best discography ever but lets not focus on albumsâ
The word discography has the album implication built in. Step the vocabulary up and say catalog, people arenât wrong for assuming discography implies albums, thatâs literally how the word has ALWAYS been used
Oh brother đĽ´. It's cool.
I mean am I wrong? lol we ARE talking about impact right?
only albums I saw above FB was DAMN & 4:44
Oh brother đĽ´. It's cool.
Flower Boy was undoubtedly brought up more in album conversations than Lil Uzi Vertâs project lol, More Life too. The big 4 projects that I remember being thrown around was Damn, 444, Culture and Flower Boy. This is facts
Iâll be honest Iâve always equated an artistâs albums as their discography. I donât count features or loosies as part of that.
Okay, abandon all logic then. Got it.
You know an artist's discography isn't just their albums, right?
99% of the time when people are talking discographies, theyâre comparing full length bodies of work. You know that. Stop being dense.
He brought back edginess which was something that was missing when he came out and dj drama but his music ainât impactful well it is but to ever be considered something top 10 or even brought up with top 50
i think a big part of this is that unlike pretty much every mainstream rapper ever, he doesnât rep a city at all, which is a real part of being able to impact the culture, because of how the sound of an area can be influenced by an artistâs work long-term (like ny with pop smoke recently, chicago with sosa, atlanta with thug and future, etc)
I mean am I wrong? lol we ARE talking about impact right?
only albums I saw above FB was DAMN & 4:44
Lots of acclaimed albums that have zero impact but you got it.
99% of the time when people are talking discographies, theyâre comparing full length bodies of work. You know that. Stop being dense.
Speak for yourself.
Ye & JIK, yes.
Donda, no. The highs on there >>>>> the highs on every Drake project from 2018-2021
Ghost Town > any song on Donda besides maybe Off The Grid and Come To Life
Speak for yourself.
Youâre one of the .01% people that isnât talking about albums then, because literally 99% of people that discuss this music s*** are talking about albums + full length projects when discussing discographies.
You know that and youâre being purposefully obtuse
Lots of acclaimed albums that have zero impact but you got it.
What are the acclaimed albums with zero impact? You once again have a bias towards s***ting on critically acclaimed work because Drake doesnât get that praise. He did when he was⌠wait for it.. making great albums.
i think a big part of this is that unlike pretty much every mainstream rapper ever, he doesnât rep a city at all, which is a real part of being able to impact the culture, because of how the sound of an area can be influenced by an artistâs work long-term (like ny with pop smoke recently, chicago with sosa, atlanta with thug and future, etc)
This is a good point honestly
Lots of acclaimed albums that have zero impact but you got it.
You the one that said Flower Boy wasnât held high in conversations though
Even in the mainstream rap space no one was saying Uzi or More Life was AOTY lol it was Damn, 444, Culture and Flower Boy that were called potentially classic
Drake <3
Okay, abandon all logic then. Got it.
Reasons why I hate talking to you are that you get snippy anytime someone disagrees with you. This is a forum where we can discuss music and disagree but you just always have to be right and cannot hold a valid discussion without being rude or catching feelings over someone that will never acknowledge your existence..
Unless you are Naomi Sharon
Youâre one of the .01% people that isnât talking about albums then, because literally 99% of people that discuss this music s*** are talking about albums + full length projects when discussing discographies.
You know that and youâre being purposefully obtuse
Nope. Your statement is as stupid as suggesting an actor's filmography only consists of their work on film. It doesn't. It connotes their work across film, TV AND theatre.
Take Nicki Minaj for instance. She has like 3 albums to her name. You can't speak of Nicki's impact on the game without speaking on her features. That's her bread and butter, not her albums.
It'll also be the same thing if you tried to speak on T-Pain's/Lil Wayne's impact /discography and ignored their features when that makes a clearly stronger case for their discographies.