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  • Jun 6, 2023
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    PolarSZN

    Fire/smoke in Calabasas in 2016 - 4pm in Calabasas

    Fire/smoke in Canada in 2023 - another heater on the way

    everywhere outside in nyc smells like someone’s grilling something in the vicinity

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    Oblivion X

    I never compared his discog w drake. But to deny tyler music has been impactful to rap is almost like u been blind to a whole scene of rap for past years lol like I said I'm not even a big fan of him but it's pretty undeniable he and odd future are impactful

    He brought back edginess which was something that was missing when he came out and dj drama but his music ain’t impactful well it is but to ever be considered something top 10 or even brought up with top 50

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    BrickellBayside

    Buddy spilling it all on March 14th and Emotionless I don't see how something that emotive isn't close to peak drake. That's literally what he's made a career out of. If that ain't peak drake then what is?

    Mans is showing genuine gratitude to the point of disbelief at how his life has turned out in Elevate. Again, if that isn't peak drake then what is?

    Idk dawggg lool 🤷🏿‍♂️

    It ain’t all about the emotions lol it’s not peak drake musically. Elevate is pretty half baked compared to actual peak drake which has better production than that. And I ain’t say it wasn’t close but it’s not peak

    You say all this but if I defended another artist by saying “oh there’s so much gratitude and honesty” y’all would be like “but you can’t play that outside” lol. That s*** alone does not make it peak drake

    Emotionless was kind of corny to me and is mostly forgotten. March 14th maybe I’ll give you. And I think Is There More, IMF, After Dark, Can’t Take a Joke, and more are peak drake but the others nah. There’s a good amount of peak drake on the album but there’s a lot of joints that feel rushed and focus too much on the beef

    Calling Elevate peak just because he’s being grateful is sicko s***. And I liked the melody on that joint but PEAK? You might just be misusing that word

  • Jun 6, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    I'm not. Tyler is a mainstream rapper, yes? That's why I specifically asked for 5 of his songs that were impactful in mainstream rap to be listed and it has nothing to do with hits.

    Never said he doesn't make good music or doesn't have good albums or isn't a good musician. People in here were saying his discography is better than Drake's and that's where I got lost.

    He’s not really a mainstream rapper tbh

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    Flower Boy/IGOR had more impact with the niche subset of rap fans than with mainstream rap audiences imo.

    Flower Boy dropped in 2017 but projects like DAMN, More Life, Culture, 4:44, Luv Is Rage 2, Future, etc had a lot more impact and were more visible even in terms of debates/discussions in the mainstream rap space.

    That’s funny cause I remember Flower Boy ranking higher at the end of the year lists in 2017 so once again it seems like you do in fact equate impact with mainstream success/hits

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    JeffersonSteelflex

    That’s funny cause I remember Flower Boy ranking higher at the end of the year lists in 2017 so once again it seems like you do in fact equate impact with mainstream success/hits

    Oh brother 🥴. It's cool.

  • Jun 6, 2023
    2words

    It ain’t all about the emotions lol it’s not peak drake musically. Elevate is pretty half baked compared to actual peak drake which has better production than that. And I ain’t say it wasn’t close but it’s not peak

    You say all this but if I defended another artist by saying “oh there’s so much gratitude and honesty” y’all would be like “but you can’t play that outside” lol. That s*** alone does not make it peak drake

    Emotionless was kind of corny to me and is mostly forgotten. March 14th maybe I’ll give you. And I think Is There More, IMF, After Dark, Can’t Take a Joke, and more are peak drake but the others nah. There’s a good amount of peak drake on the album but there’s a lot of joints that feel rushed and focus too much on the beef

    Calling Elevate peak just because he’s being grateful is sicko s***. And I liked the melody on that joint but PEAK? You might just be misusing that word

    what do you think peak drake is in your opinion (outside scorpion)

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    jeffpesos

    This is true and fair, except the highs on Drake’s albums are much, much higher than the highs on any of those Kanye albums

    Ye & JIK, yes.

    Donda, no. The highs on there >>>>> the highs on every Drake project from 2018-2021

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    You know an artist's discography isn't just their albums, right?

    I’ll be honest I’ve always equated an artist’s albums as their discography. I don’t count features or loosies as part of that.

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    You know an artist's discography isn't just their albums, right?

    If you gotta keep hiding behind this, you’re kinda losing lol

    “Drake has the best discography ever but lets not focus on albums”

    The word discography has the album implication built in. Step the vocabulary up and say catalog, people aren’t wrong for assuming discography implies albums, that’s literally how the word has ALWAYS been used

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    Oh brother 🥴. It's cool.

    I mean am I wrong? lol we ARE talking about impact right? only albums I saw above FB was DAMN & 4:44

  • Jun 6, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    Oh brother 🥴. It's cool.

    Flower Boy was undoubtedly brought up more in album conversations than Lil Uzi Vert’s project lol, More Life too. The big 4 projects that I remember being thrown around was Damn, 444, Culture and Flower Boy. This is facts

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    JeffersonSteelflex

    I’ll be honest I’ve always equated an artist’s albums as their discography. I don’t count features or loosies as part of that.

    Okay, abandon all logic then. Got it.

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    You know an artist's discography isn't just their albums, right?

    99% of the time when people are talking discographies, they’re comparing full length bodies of work. You know that. Stop being dense.

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    Dorian

    He brought back edginess which was something that was missing when he came out and dj drama but his music ain’t impactful well it is but to ever be considered something top 10 or even brought up with top 50

    i think a big part of this is that unlike pretty much every mainstream rapper ever, he doesn’t rep a city at all, which is a real part of being able to impact the culture, because of how the sound of an area can be influenced by an artist’s work long-term (like ny with pop smoke recently, chicago with sosa, atlanta with thug and future, etc)

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    JeffersonSteelflex

    I mean am I wrong? lol we ARE talking about impact right? only albums I saw above FB was DAMN & 4:44

    Lots of acclaimed albums that have zero impact but you got it.

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    shaleirose

    99% of the time when people are talking discographies, they’re comparing full length bodies of work. You know that. Stop being dense.

    Speak for yourself.

  • Jun 6, 2023
    shaleirose

    Ye & JIK, yes.

    Donda, no. The highs on there >>>>> the highs on every Drake project from 2018-2021

    Ghost Town > any song on Donda besides maybe Off The Grid and Come To Life

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    Speak for yourself.

    You’re one of the .01% people that isn’t talking about albums then, because literally 99% of people that discuss this music s*** are talking about albums + full length projects when discussing discographies.

    You know that and you’re being purposefully obtuse

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    Lots of acclaimed albums that have zero impact but you got it.

    What are the acclaimed albums with zero impact? You once again have a bias towards s***ting on critically acclaimed work because Drake doesn’t get that praise. He did when he was… wait for it.. making great albums.

  • jumbotron

    i think a big part of this is that unlike pretty much every mainstream rapper ever, he doesn’t rep a city at all, which is a real part of being able to impact the culture, because of how the sound of an area can be influenced by an artist’s work long-term (like ny with pop smoke recently, chicago with sosa, atlanta with thug and future, etc)

    This is a good point honestly

  • Jun 6, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    Lots of acclaimed albums that have zero impact but you got it.

    You the one that said Flower Boy wasn’t held high in conversations though

    Even in the mainstream rap space no one was saying Uzi or More Life was AOTY lol it was Damn, 444, Culture and Flower Boy that were called potentially classic

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    Jun 6, 2023

    Drake <3

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    Okay, abandon all logic then. Got it.

    Reasons why I hate talking to you are that you get snippy anytime someone disagrees with you. This is a forum where we can discuss music and disagree but you just always have to be right and cannot hold a valid discussion without being rude or catching feelings over someone that will never acknowledge your existence..

    Unless you are Naomi Sharon

  • Jun 6, 2023
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    shaleirose

    You’re one of the .01% people that isn’t talking about albums then, because literally 99% of people that discuss this music s*** are talking about albums + full length projects when discussing discographies.

    You know that and you’re being purposefully obtuse

    Nope. Your statement is as stupid as suggesting an actor's filmography only consists of their work on film. It doesn't. It connotes their work across film, TV AND theatre.

    Take Nicki Minaj for instance. She has like 3 albums to her name. You can't speak of Nicki's impact on the game without speaking on her features. That's her bread and butter, not her albums.

    It'll also be the same thing if you tried to speak on T-Pain's/Lil Wayne's impact /discography and ignored their features when that makes a clearly stronger case for their discographies.