LongLiveHipHop

2y

QM Credits across Drake's catalog @Yazzy

2015 Legend
2015 10 Bands
2015 Know Yourself
2015 Used To

QM Uncredited across Drake's catalog
2015 Blessing
2015 R.I.C.O.
2013 Started From The Bottom ?
(People argue this line "Boys tell stories 'bout the man" on 10 Bands and STFB is QM could be, very unclear

Quentin himself said Drake Co-Wrote on everything, and he watched him go freestyle Madonna (CD Version) in front of him

QM & Drake 2013-2015 RIP

WINTER

2y

actually scratch that
i was mad again when yachty jumbotron came out

Yazzy

2y

I liked it also but I knew this wasn’t his style so that’s why I ain’t care but still like f*** man. That ref leaked too? Man what’s next? Back to back?

WINTER

2y

imagine ref for family matters comes out

Duddas

2y

Everyone in the music industry has help and co writers and lyricicism changes and sometimes references, it is what is is
Drake is a brand at this point
But at the same time the e amount of artist who vouched for him saying he’s one of the best writers should stand for something too, ye-ross etc

Yazzy

2y

We better not hear anymore ref tracks. Especially when it’s rappin drizzy.

foogo

2y

whoever supposedly making me hits
but then got no hits sound like they need me

Yazzy

2y

Bruh I guess I was traumatized back then and thought it was like 2 tracks only…this crazy

WINTER

2y

Wonder if he wrote that

Nero 92

2y

this isn't true btw there's plenty of rappers who don't use co-writers or have ghostwriters. The only difference now is that it's been completely normalized to the point where being exposed for it doesn't hurt your career.

I'd argue Kanye was the first to normalize it in rap but early on in his career he would have his co-writers defend him and downplay their role as writers on his albums because he knew he'd lose credibility if the word got out. It wasn't til later on when him and his co-writers started promoting him as more of a composer or director probably to counter the criticism he was getting for not producing beats from scratch anymore.

I don't think having writers is a knock against him or Drake as artists but it should automatically exclude them from any GOAT rapper list.

kelsier

2y

The vibes are off here

foogo

2y

you're a hater today, out here acting like @thegreatdivine

i know you were tryna set her up with Yazzy but maybe y'all getting a little close now instead....

LongLiveHipHop

2y

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Total Refs (I think)

Ratchet Happy Bday (PND)
647 (PND)
Mob Ties (Vory)
10 Bands (QM)
RICO (QM)
Jumbotron S*** Poppin (Yachty)
Since Way Back (PND)
Used To (QM)
RICO (QM)
Legend (QM)
Know Yourself (QM, part of it plays in Meek Mill's Wanna Know)
Feel No Ways (Future / 1 line)
Calling For You (Cash) (Maybe)

When I get back I'll post all the ref Drake did for others spoiler it's more

foogo

2y

Madonna

Nero 92

2y

this isn't true btw there's plenty of rappers who don't use co-writers or have ghostwriters. The only difference now is that it's been completely normalized to the point where being exposed for it doesn't hurt your career.

I'd argue Kanye was the first to normalize it in rap but early on in his career he would have his co-writers defend him and downplay their role as writers on his albums because he knew he'd lose credibility if the word got out. It wasn't til later on when him and his co-writers started promoting him as more of a composer or director probably to counter the criticism he was getting for not producing beats from scratch anymore.

I don't think having writers is a knock against him or Drake as artists but it should automatically exclude them from any GOAT rapper list.

LongLiveHipHop

2y

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Total Refs (I think)

Ratchet Happy Bday (PND)
647 (PND)
Mob Ties (Vory)
10 Bands (QM)
RICO (QM)
Jumbotron S*** Poppin (Yachty)
Since Way Back (PND)
Used To (QM)
RICO (QM)
Legend (QM)
Know Yourself (QM, part of it plays in Meek Mill's Wanna Know)
Feel No Ways (Future / 1 line)
Calling For You (Cash) (Maybe)

When I get back I'll post all the ref Drake did for others spoiler it's more

LongLiveHipHop

2y

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Total Refs (I think)

Ratchet Happy Bday (PND)
647 (PND)
Mob Ties (Vory)
10 Bands (QM)
RICO (QM)
Jumbotron S*** Poppin (Yachty)
Since Way Back (PND)
Used To (QM)
RICO (QM)
Legend (QM)
Know Yourself (QM, part of it plays in Meek Mill's Wanna Know)
Feel No Ways (Future / 1 line)
Calling For You (Cash) (Maybe)

When I get back I'll post all the ref Drake did for others spoiler it's more

RangerFan9903

2y

Need a 2024 Madonna

WINTER

2y

who the f*** was quentin runnin through the six with

foogo

2y

i think i feel the opposite but maybe its because im a fan of rnb drizzy more

id rather hear ref tracks for rap hooks etc than hear a reference track for jaded or some s***

LongLiveHipHop

2y

From the References we've heard they all have significant changes also none of them were legit file leaks. I believe that was done on purpose to narrow down to the parts Drake used. If they played the whole file or leaked it for real it would show Drake used nothing in comparison to the actual Refs QM sent. I'm speculating however it makes the impact higher because it seems like QM is just handing him incredible ideas from the perspective of playing snippets.