2words

1y

Tbh i never said anything about a correlation in that sense

I actually believe that some of the music and media today is bad for us in a more subtle way that encourages us to always rely on our base instincts and never on higher thought or spirituality, the 808s and content keeping you in the low chakra of base urges, sex, and wants. This is the ideal condition for capitalism to work on us because we’re all tired and looking for our next dopamine fix. Don’t question anything just get that fix, hear that beat drop, feel good. This is what’s being pushed underneath it all

2words

1y

Good take

People are overlooking this because social media is interactive but it’s actually become a much more effective brainwashing tool than TV ever was and that’s crazy

Block Muteson

1y

Should we organize a boycott of the bad scary rap music? Because individual consumption isn't likely to do much.

So let's do a BDS list for rap music. Tell me who I can't listen to. Name names.

Block Muteson

1y

Seems pretty straight forward when you blame music for violent crime.

Then I ask for a solution and it's not "consume less" or "regulate more". Nobody wants that.

The door is open guys. I feel like I could come up with a ton of ideas to address violent crime that don't have anything to do with drill music. Come up with one that includes it since it's so important.

Block Muteson

1y

Okay should we regulate media or consume less?

I mean I think you guys should definitely consume less media. To be clear lol

DicherdownDAVE9

1y

You know what I don’t like about you ktt niggas, y’all pick and choose a lot of ya’ll hate on drill talking about how negative it is how it’s ruining the youth with d*** and gun rap but in the same breath talk about how much of a legend most trap rappers are like gucci mane and others praising even tho it’s the SAME S*** AS DRILL! There’s no difference trap and drill are both one in the same, both speak on the same s***.. and then y’all have a nerve to praise chief keef like son isn’t one of the main pioneer of this s*** so let’s stop the bullshit

2words

1y

Why do you keep going to this “what is the golden solution” question lol

There isn’t one

But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have conversations. That’s what we should do, we should be aware and conscious and thoughtful of what we consume

DicherdownDAVE9

1y

You know what I don’t like about you ktt niggas, y’all pick and choose a lot of ya’ll hate on drill talking about how negative it is how it’s ruining the youth with d*** and gun rap but in the same breath talk about how much of a legend most trap rappers are like gucci mane and others praising even tho it’s the SAME S*** AS DRILL! There’s no difference trap and drill are both one in the same, both speak on the same s***.. and then y’all have a nerve to praise chief keef like son isn’t one of the main pioneer of this s*** so let’s stop the bullshit

Block Muteson

1y

Golden solution? I'll take a timid suggestion at this point

Again, talking about addressing violent crime without talking about drill music is easy. The trick is what you do if you blame one on the other.

met

1y

I believe the correlation between lack of government intervention, proper education and aid for low income areas like Chicago and New York is what started drill mass creating sociopaths and people with PTSD is more relevant than anything else

2words

1y

Here’s the suggestion: just because you can’t rid society of something doesn’t mean you can’t have discussions about how it might be effecting us and spread ideas which could lead to us changing our relationship with the issues or content we consume, even if it’s just on a small independent basis

Your defeatism mindset of “well there’s nothing we can do, might as well just be silent and consoom” isn’t helping anything

insertcoolnamehere

1y

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I keep forgetting accountability is a #nono on this site.

Show me the 7-8 year old that was rapping about drive bys and pushing bricks in the 90s lololol

Show me the niggas dropping names in the 90s that wasnt Pac lololol

Yall got it tho.

Block Muteson

1y

I'm not defeatist at all. I have a lot of ideas about urban poverty. I think we should rebuild the cities as spaces for people to live in by taxing the businesses and wealthy people there. Strengthen schools and sports and after school programs. Affordable housing that people can have some dignity in living in. Needle exchanges. Idk, how broad or narrow do you want to get? Endless ideas here.

The problem is you can't say "drill causes violent crime" and then retreat to "okay there's no solutions to it" because you don't want the solutions to the problem you just set up. You don't want to be told what to consume or have the government deprive you of consumption. You might want parents to be little dictators and do that for you. You, a childless 30 year old, want to tell a working mom she can't have a birthday for her kid or something where they cuss. Sounds productive to me! Keep scrolling.

And if you do want people to "raise their kids" maybe they should work less and not have two working parents. Pay people to raise their damn kids. Other countries do that!

slaveofgod

1y

It’s not just aesthetic for them they genuinely worship carnage — those kids in ski masks are liable to jump you you without probable cause of even trying to defuse a fight and they might even shoot you

Not only has drill enveloped Europe but even kids from suburban and mid sized urban cities who do it as devotional to an abstract worship of violence

2012 we were watching the lives of neglected crack babies that were sympathetic to but these HS kids who now are emulating come from homes of middle class working parents but ironically similar that the neglect might come from overworking parents without even the guidance of a grandmother they’ve chosen NBa youngboy or something else of that ilk as their foundation

2words

1y

also, a lot of times that whole “gta and mob movies” thing feels like a fallacy

Like yes, people who want to ban video games and movies are stupid and going too far

But I think somewhere along the line, we accepted that as a fact too much, and now no one ever wants to look like one of those “crazy moms blaming video games/movies/music”

Under this idea, we can never have any discussion about whether or not what’s being pushed on us is good for us, and so we’re on like a whole nother extreme

I’ve noticed things like this idk if there’s a term for it. When a seemingly reasonable stance like being pro artist and anti censorship ends up being used as a veil and justification for literally anything. It’s like a good idea gone too far or something

It’s this same thought process that will have people look at you crazy if you question how Apple products and social media are effecting us. There’s this attitude that no media can be bad or you’ll be laughed at if you say it is

Classique

1y

most of societies problems would be solved or lessened if they properly invested in education and parks and recreation but it’ll never happen

Block Muteson

1y

Who should we hold accountable and how? Do you want to report these people to CPS? Should we lock up rappers who rap about this stuff? Should we sue record labels? Or by "accountable" do you mean "crying online"