I would agree for us it’s not AS true. I was speaking more to OP’s point of “Ruining the world”.
Crime in the hood is still not as rampant as it was during the 90s.

My last paragraph reaches a similar conclusion to u

Bro I have met some nerd A&Rs who brag about the criminal s*** their artists do

Oh yeah it should be mentioned @op is from Europe it may be different out there in the UK or sum shii ...

Yeah I agree with you to it aint as rampant as the 90s but personally I take it as a generational thing for nikkas who came out in the streets around in the 2000s/2010s the 2020s have been kinda crazy...

In my city personally I never so much "drill music" come out during 2020 with a combination of it hitting a record murder rate from the last 20 years the hood just looked bad

Really? Thats so f***ed. Music industry is rotten to the core

As horrible as this negative music is and it is a problem…we know the problems. There’s been countless threads, studies, anecdotes and discussions about them. As for the solution or A solution?

The rappers with something positive to say need to start making bangers with the same memeability/catchiness/quotability as these shoot ‘em up bang bang songs

Tbh the only solution I see is a massive cultural shift that starts with naming and shaming. Treating drill rappers like we treat smokers or fat people

I don’t even listen to the mfs still trying to bury their heads in the sand. Everybody know what it is now and even the youth in these communities have had enough. All My Life in all its cheesiness was one of the biggest rap hits of the year for a reason lol

People dont want to have a serious conversation they just want to virtue signal.

Free speech means violent rap is going nowhere ever.
The rappers will make it and fans will consume it.

The real conversation is why is society tolerating crime and violence and making excuses for criminals. There is a large segment of black people who justify other black people committing crime.

The same people who will say free Young Thug gonna turn around and say "man wha are we gonna do about all the crime?"

Instead of waging a pointless battle against free speech how about just making sure criminals go to jail and dropping "no snitching" and other brain dead positions that allow crime to flourish

I think that’s a different issue

Them niggas ain’t say they was tryna March for civil rights

If they just wanted to get together and look pretty why does niggas doing that prompt that much anger lol

It’s corny but why does it make people mad lol of all the things Niggas randomly do on a Saturday

I just rewatched the Funk Flex Vic Mensa Pac interview and this is what he said basically hearing it with new ears

He said that everyone was approached by Henchman and Jack but Pac was the only one who decided to take them up on their offer and start kicking it with them lol

Goes deeper into Pac kinda dressing/styling himself like Jack too at a point

Great theory. Do you think there is an obstacle for positive artists to do that in the sense that people might be drawn to more negative stuff by nature or conditioning? There is probably something to be said about the visceral qualities of a lot of “negative” work that helps it to translate to people

And then there’s the possibility that whoever the keepers of the algorithms are specifically wont push the button for positive stuff and there is a calculated plan to keep people down

I felt like KOD was a great attempt at what you’re saying tbh

lol yeah idk what I was doing right there work was boring

I don't understand the outrage but always here for the jokes

Nothing will change till people on the individual want to change

Do you think there is an obstacle for positive artists to do that in the sense that people might be drawn to more negative stuff by nature or conditioning? There is probably something to be said about the visceral qualities of a lot of “negative” work that helps it to translate to people

YES! I thought about this aspect and asked myself the exact question - it’s ultimately a songwriting and presentation issue.

Presentation:
Rap movements and styles that really catch on with the people and how they look/act/sound always have a strong sense of community and identity. The music videos have a distinct look, the fashion is distinct, the lingo is distinct, and the attitude is there. A lot of conscious guys aren’t grabbing audiences in this regard. There’s no world to get into.

The lifestyle and environment also has to be represented in a proud manner in the visuals and lyrics which street music has in spades

Songwriting:
Violence is action based, action based material is the most immediate material that humans understand in any medium. People get action from the moment they’re born

This means that action based lyrics translate most easily to chant worthy catchy lyrics from even a creative process standpoint. Given violence is simply a rotating topic given the environments that produce gangsta rap, violence will be a topic of this music

It’s worth noting that conscious rap music at its previous days of peak popularity had more action based lyrics

right if you give kids safe environments to have fun or do something constructive with themselves they’ll be a lot better off and if schools offer better quality education they’ll be much better equipped for life. not that easy unfortunately

There’s really no solution

America created these problems and can’t fix them

Lil Mabu genuinely needs his ass beat

I got so many problems with him and people like him I can’t even begin to type it all

Explain

I don’t feel like typing a whole thesis on him lol

But the problem with him and what he’s doing should be pretty evident

Nah it is, I wanted to hear your perspective on him

ok art police

Soon as I get off work I’ll type an essay lol

Black people (or honestly poor people in general) in those environments are already treated like some sort of zoo animal for the entertainment of (mostly) white middle-upper class kids

Lil Mabu takes this a weird step further by straight up acknowledging he’s one of those kids that think that s*** is cool and fun

He’s beyond a more typical white rapper that tries to act like he’s from the hood or act black. He’s straight up saying he isn’t from that world at all but thinks all the d****, murder, violence and trauma is cool and funny

Take someone like Slim Jesus. Even tho he was lying (the more typical white rapper I was talking about) the music and lifestyle he was promoting wasn’t really any different than the actual guys really catching bodies and to the media it’s all the same. He just got called out because he was like the Vanilla Ice of that s***. If he would start a career right now instead of back then I bet he wouldn’t immediately get wrote off as a joke

Lil Mabu ain’t even pretending to be with the s*** like Slim Jesus was. He’s just saying “Hey kids exactly like me, Look how cool and funny this s*** is”. Which imo is even worse because it takes the seriousness away from the very real situation. People who pretend are just perpetuating it

The reason I said he needs his ass beat is because people in those situations have lost friends, brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers to that violence. And here you are making it into a f***ing joke you can profit from. Fivio also an absolute clown for doing that s***