I doubt Elton is insulting hip hop he prob don't even know who most these people are
For sure pop is missing genuine musically talented people who are making their own music
dont you gotta give writing credits to way more people to protect yourself from getting sued these days anyway. a sample or two could double it
The reason writing credits are longer now is cos people sample now. And there's less singer songwriters and original writers who are major superstars. The closest thing is rappers, which is why people call them the new rockstars.
But in pop/r&B/rock we don't have loads of Eltons, Stones, Beatles, Curtis Mayfields, Stevie Wonders, Carole Kings, Smokey Robinsons, Sam Cookes, Kinks etc. That writing talent from artists is objectively missing lol.
I doubt Elton is insulting hip hop he prob don't even know who most these people are
For sure pop is missing genuine musically talented people who are making their own music
yeah that would surprise me cos he's usually going out of his way to be positive about hip hop like Bruce or Lou Reed was (rip).
In pop/r&b i can't really think of many artists who are proper songwriters and popular. at the top it might actually only be Calvin Harris lol. Pharrell if you count him as current pop. Charli XCX if you count her as a popstar and she even uses a lot of writers
you don't think he has more than 3 classic songs? maybe it's my british bias but i don't think that's true at all.
he wouldn't be in my top 100 oat but he's somewhere in the conversation, mainly cos he can actually write
Just say you hate contemporary hip hop
"I call it kkk cause my choppa hates niggas" - Elton John
when you're writing all the music outside of the lyrics, isn't 3 classic albums a lot? there's not that many artists with 3 classic albums
idk if he has much influence on other artists tho
Haven’t read the thread but I’m pretty sure kids are trying to roast Elton Johns opinion
I doubt Elton is insulting hip hop he prob don't even know who most these people are
For sure pop is missing genuine musically talented people who are making their own music
he don't know most of the people on the top 50, but he somehow knows who Conan gray is?
Why do fat ass old white people come up with the lamest excuses to hate on black music
*Let me tell you a story
About a boy and a girl
It's kinda short, kinda boring
But the end is a whirl
They were just sixteen
When the people were mean
So they didn't love themselves
And now they're gone
Headstones on a lawn
And when I was younger
I knew a boy and a boy
Best friends with each other
But always wished they were more
'Cause they loved one other
But never discovered
'Cause they were too afraid
Of what they'd say
Moved to different states
Oh, and I'm afraid that's just the way the world works
It ain't funny, it ain't pretty, it ain't sweet
Oh, and I'm afraid that's just the way the world works
But I think that it could work for you and me
Just wait and see
It's not the end of the story*
man this is some basic ass songwriting
this surprises me cos Elton's always bigging up hip hop Doesn't he get Migos pressed on vinyl just for him and things like that lol
Let the man have an opinion,music is pretty trash nowadays with very few exceptions.
*Let me tell you a story
About a boy and a girl
It's kinda short, kinda boring
But the end is a whirl
They were just sixteen
When the people were mean
So they didn't love themselves
And now they're gone
Headstones on a lawn
And when I was younger
I knew a boy and a boy
Best friends with each other
But always wished they were more
'Cause they loved one other
But never discovered
'Cause they were too afraid
Of what they'd say
Moved to different states
Oh, and I'm afraid that's just the way the world works
It ain't funny, it ain't pretty, it ain't sweet
Oh, and I'm afraid that's just the way the world works
But I think that it could work for you and me
Just wait and see
It's not the end of the story*
man this is some basic ass songwriting
"Why would you ever kiss me?
I'm not even half as pretty
You gave her your sweater, it's just polyester
But you like her better
Wish I were"
watered down, knockoff taylor swift type s***
he don't know most of the people on the top 50, but he somehow knows who Conan gray is?
He's trying to big that guy up in comparison to his pop peers more than he's trying to put anyone down.
Fans of fast food media gettin sick itt
Probably though he is speaking to the concept of think tank style music production where their only focus is viable product and no f***s given for artistry or innovation
I mean he's not wrong
Of course teenagers in this thread are gonna be angry about this
he don't know most of the people on the top 50, but he somehow knows who Conan gray is?
And Father John Misty. which is real
Why do fat ass old white people come up with the lamest excuses to hate on black music
calling elton john a racist would be a reach tho
Niggas will diss tf outta Elton John for discussing music,something he should know about but will praise Cardi B up and down for saying some dumb s***.
Get your priorities straight people
"Why would you ever kiss me?
I'm not even half as pretty
You gave her your sweater, it's just polyester
But you like her better
Wish I were"
watered down, knockoff taylor swift type s***
pandering at its finest