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  • Aug 27, 2020
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    Just say you hate contemporary hip hop

  • Aug 27, 2020
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    I doubt Elton is insulting hip hop he prob don't even know who most these people are

    For sure pop is missing genuine musically talented people who are making their own music

  • Aug 27, 2020
    class wario

    dont you gotta give writing credits to way more people to protect yourself from getting sued these days anyway. a sample or two could double it

    The reason writing credits are longer now is cos people sample now. And there's less singer songwriters and original writers who are major superstars. The closest thing is rappers, which is why people call them the new rockstars.

    But in pop/r&B/rock we don't have loads of Eltons, Stones, Beatles, Curtis Mayfields, Stevie Wonders, Carole Kings, Smokey Robinsons, Sam Cookes, Kinks etc. That writing talent from artists is objectively missing lol.

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    rich scouser

    I doubt Elton is insulting hip hop he prob don't even know who most these people are

    For sure pop is missing genuine musically talented people who are making their own music

    yeah that would surprise me cos he's usually going out of his way to be positive about hip hop like Bruce or Lou Reed was (rip).

    In pop/r&b i can't really think of many artists who are proper songwriters and popular. at the top it might actually only be Calvin Harris lol. Pharrell if you count him as current pop. Charli XCX if you count her as a popstar and she even uses a lot of writers

  • Aug 27, 2020
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    you don't think he has more than 3 classic songs? maybe it's my british bias but i don't think that's true at all.

    he wouldn't be in my top 100 oat but he's somewhere in the conversation, mainly cos he can actually write

  • Aug 27, 2020
    Kendrik lama

    Just say you hate contemporary hip hop

    "I call it kkk cause my choppa hates niggas" - Elton John

  • Aug 27, 2020
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    when you're writing all the music outside of the lyrics, isn't 3 classic albums a lot? there's not that many artists with 3 classic albums

    idk if he has much influence on other artists tho

  • Aug 27, 2020

    Haven’t read the thread but I’m pretty sure kids are trying to roast Elton Johns opinion

  • Aug 27, 2020
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    rich scouser

    I doubt Elton is insulting hip hop he prob don't even know who most these people are

    For sure pop is missing genuine musically talented people who are making their own music

    he don't know most of the people on the top 50, but he somehow knows who Conan gray is?

  • Aug 27, 2020
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    Why do fat ass old white people come up with the lamest excuses to hate on black music

  • Nessy 🦎
    Aug 27, 2020
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    *Let me tell you a story
    About a boy and a girl
    It's kinda short, kinda boring
    But the end is a whirl
    They were just sixteen
    When the people were mean
    So they didn't love themselves
    And now they're gone
    Headstones on a lawn

    And when I was younger
    I knew a boy and a boy
    Best friends with each other
    But always wished they were more
    'Cause they loved one other
    But never discovered
    'Cause they were too afraid
    Of what they'd say
    Moved to different states

    Oh, and I'm afraid that's just the way the world works
    It ain't funny, it ain't pretty, it ain't sweet
    Oh, and I'm afraid that's just the way the world works
    But I think that it could work for you and me
    Just wait and see
    It's not the end of the story*

    man this is some basic ass songwriting

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    theDonandOnly

    this surprises me cos Elton's always bigging up hip hop Doesn't he get Migos pressed on vinyl just for him and things like that lol

    Let the man have an opinion,music is pretty trash nowadays with very few exceptions.

  • Aug 27, 2020
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    Nessy

    *Let me tell you a story
    About a boy and a girl
    It's kinda short, kinda boring
    But the end is a whirl
    They were just sixteen
    When the people were mean
    So they didn't love themselves
    And now they're gone
    Headstones on a lawn

    And when I was younger
    I knew a boy and a boy
    Best friends with each other
    But always wished they were more
    'Cause they loved one other
    But never discovered
    'Cause they were too afraid
    Of what they'd say
    Moved to different states

    Oh, and I'm afraid that's just the way the world works
    It ain't funny, it ain't pretty, it ain't sweet
    Oh, and I'm afraid that's just the way the world works
    But I think that it could work for you and me
    Just wait and see
    It's not the end of the story*

    man this is some basic ass songwriting

    "Why would you ever kiss me?
    I'm not even half as pretty
    You gave her your sweater, it's just polyester
    But you like her better
    Wish I were"

    watered down, knockoff taylor swift type s***

  • Aug 27, 2020
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    seezus

    he don't know most of the people on the top 50, but he somehow knows who Conan gray is?

    He's trying to big that guy up in comparison to his pop peers more than he's trying to put anyone down.

  • Aug 27, 2020
    Gkmc mid

    Fans of fast food media gettin sick itt

    Probably though he is speaking to the concept of think tank style music production where their only focus is viable product and no f***s given for artistry or innovation

  • Aug 27, 2020
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    I mean he's not wrong

    Of course teenagers in this thread are gonna be angry about this

  • Aug 27, 2020
    seezus

    he don't know most of the people on the top 50, but he somehow knows who Conan gray is?

    And Father John Misty. which is real

  • Nessy 🦎
    Aug 27, 2020
    boylife

    Why do fat ass old white people come up with the lamest excuses to hate on black music

    calling elton john a racist would be a reach tho

  • Aug 27, 2020

    elton still a legend

  • Aug 27, 2020

    Niggas will diss tf outta Elton John for discussing music,something he should know about but will praise Cardi B up and down for saying some dumb s***.

    Get your priorities straight people

  • Nessy 🦎
    Aug 27, 2020
    seezus

    "Why would you ever kiss me?
    I'm not even half as pretty
    You gave her your sweater, it's just polyester
    But you like her better
    Wish I were"

    watered down, knockoff taylor swift type s***

    pandering at its finest

  • Aug 27, 2020
    rich scouser

    He's trying to big that guy up in comparison to his pop peers more than he's trying to put anyone down.

    there's only 10 non-hip hop songs on the top 50
    the only other pop acts in the top 50 are Taylor, Miley, and billie

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