iirc people clowned eminem for rapping about santa and reindeers on EPMD2
killshot was a diss record towards mgk during their beef
iirc people said eminem ruined conway's song with the beatswitch and his verse
eminem didnt perform new music at the superbowl, he did however push his nft and new song at the vmas with snoop dogg (idk how the song is doing but it seems like no one gives af)
Em has been doing the best collabs on his albums. That being said he killed Moon Man and Slim and Sean's cypher.
No one performed new music at the super bowl lol and Snoop's to blame for the NFT s***. He dissed Em and now Em doing all this bs to keep him happy.
Will do once you give us more proof besides anecdotal evidence that majority of Jay Z's fanbase is white
The burden of proof is on the White boy that said "97 percent" of Eminem stans are White people who hate rap.
Stop trying to dodge your L, tho
Idk the last time I liked anything em put out but this is a really respectable interview and its good to see for sure
Will do once you give us more proof besides anecdotal evidence that majority of Jay Z's fanbase is white
I extrapolated from available data, which is more than you dim niggas have done this entire thread
I extrapolated from available data, which is more than you dim niggas have done this entire thread
bet if that's what we do, let me source my white classmates in high school choir class that said "most hip hop artists are misogynistic and violent" that were huge Eminem fans :word:
Since y'know, we extrapolating available data.
All of this discussion really just boils down to a simple fact: Eminem doesn't make good music anymore and hasn't done so in decades.
He's been rapping fast/using metaphors/punchlines/double entendres for decades now. His problem now is he doesn't have s*** to say. You go through the lyrics of an Eminem verse and it's a whole load of nothing. Being 50 years old and rapping like a 12 year-old who just discovered how to rhyme is not cute.
It's rather unfortunate that he still thinks that in 2022, anyone gives a f*** about him being impressive technically. We've seen all he can do lyrically. Doing more of that won't impress anyone and he's done more to damage his legacy in the last 15 or so years than help it in any real way with the gutter-level of music he's released.
You listen to his peers like Jay Z and Nas and you can see the clear difference in the s*** they're saying at their age and the s*** he's saying at his.
All of this discussion really just boils down to a simple fact: Eminem doesn't make good music anymore and hasn't done so in decades.
He's been rapping fast/using metaphors/punchlines/double entendres for decades now. His problem now is he doesn't have s*** to say. You go through the lyrics of an Eminem verse and it's a whole load of nothing. Being 50 years old and rapping like a 12 year-old who just discovered how to rhyme is not cute.
It's rather unfortunate that he still thinks that in 2022, anyone gives a f*** about him being impressive technically. We've seen all he can do lyrically. Doing more of that won't impress anyone and he's done more to damage his legacy in the last 15 or so years than help it in any real way with the gutter-level of music he's released.
You listen to his peers like Jay Z and Nas and you can see the clear difference in the s*** they're saying at their age and the s*** he's saying at his.
Rapping fast lol how many fast verses has he had in the last decade? lol Godzilla, Gnat?
The burden of proof is on the White boy that said "97 percent" of Eminem stans are White people who hate rap.
Stop trying to dodge your L, tho
what L, you said majority of America is white, I said that's barely the case in 2022, post source confirming their population has been declining for decades and has no way shown any form of an increase (and conspiracy theorists have a hunch this is why supreme court really been pushing to end roe v wade, but that's a conversation for another thread)
but L or not, doesn't change the fact that yall em stans are very stuck up and elitist when it comes to hip hop discussions.
what do you hear outside tho ?
like top 10 billboard 100? lol
Drake often
Hearing a lot of God Did past week
Heard Larry June the other day
S*** I even hear newer J Cole pretty often
Then s*** that I don't know but obviously not Muzak to Be Murdered By
bet if that's what we do, let me source my white classmates in high school choir class that said "most hip hop artists are misogynistic and violent" that were huge Eminem fans :word:
Since y'know, we extrapolating available data.
I'm actually feeling bad for insulting you now, since you're continuing to miss the point and it's seeming like you can't help it.
Let me try another method.
1. The data I was referring to was the census, not anecdotal evidence. So unless you're willing to carry out a study with good methodology/sampling among your classmates, then they aren't equivalent
Drake often
Hearing a lot of God Did past week
Heard Larry June the other day
S*** I even hear newer J Cole pretty often
Then s*** that I don't know but obviously not Muzak to Be Murdered By
dude thats just unlucky
if you heard larry june but not godzilla idk what to say i guess it's more relevant culturally
All of this discussion really just boils down to a simple fact: Eminem doesn't make good music anymore and hasn't done so in decades.
He's been rapping fast/using metaphors/punchlines/double entendres for decades now. His problem now is he doesn't have s*** to say. You go through the lyrics of an Eminem verse and it's a whole load of nothing. Being 50 years old and rapping like a 12 year-old who just discovered how to rhyme is not cute.
It's rather unfortunate that he still thinks that in 2022, anyone gives a f*** about him being impressive technically. We've seen all he can do lyrically. Doing more of that won't impress anyone and he's done more to damage his legacy in the last 15 or so years than help it in any real way with the gutter-level of music he's released.
You listen to his peers like Jay Z and Nas and you can see the clear difference in the s*** they're saying at their age and the s*** he's saying at his.
I f*** with you, so I don't want to come at you sideways but just know that's a subjective opinion
dude thats just unlucky
if you heard larry june but not godzilla idk what to say i guess it's more relevant culturally
Larry June doesn't scare the hoes like Em music does respectfully
Rapping fast lol how many fast verses has he had in the last decade? lol Godzilla, Gnat?
His patented style of rapping was acceptable when he actually had s*** to say 20+ years ago. Rapping like that now and saying stupid, childish s*** in an attempt to be funny NEVER lands well and he just comes off as stupid.
It says a lot that 2/3 albums he has charting on the Billboard 200 contain music from the 90s and the early 2000s while albums he released 2/3 years are nowhere to be found.
what L, you said majority of America is white, I said that's barely the case in 2022, post source confirming their population has been declining for decades and has no way shown any form of an increase (and conspiracy theorists have a hunch this is why supreme court really been pushing to end roe v wade, but that's a conversation for another thread)
but L or not, doesn't change the fact that yall em stans are very stuck up and elitist when it comes to hip hop discussions.
It's not barely when the White population is more than 70 percent according to the most recent census.
Like, my G, are you arguing with the census now?
His patented style of rapping was acceptable when he actually had s*** to say 20+ years ago. Rapping like that now and saying stupid, childish s*** in an attempt to be funny NEVER lands well and he just comes off as stupid.
It says a lot that 2/3 albums he has charting on the Billboard 200 contain music from the 90s and the early 2000s while albums he released 2/3 years are nowhere to be found.
MTBMB has a bunch of serious tracks, but some people here act like it was just Stepdad.
Em stopped charting when he stopped releasing hits, but Recovery still his biggest album since his comeback.
His patented style of rapping was acceptable when he actually had s*** to say 20+ years ago. Rapping like that now and saying stupid, childish s*** in an attempt to be funny NEVER lands well and he just comes off as stupid.
It says a lot that 2/3 albums he has charting on the Billboard 200 contain music from the 90s and the early 2000s while albums he released 2/3 years are nowhere to be found.
So the fact that the highest charting Kendrick album is GKMC means what, exactly?
So the fact that the highest charting Kendrick album is GKMC means what, exactly?
That it's his best
Y'all pick a narrative, and then try to fit facts around in as a way to feel better about y'all subjective opinions.
It's actually funny
I f*** with you, so I don't want to come at you sideways but just know that's a subjective opinion
Of course, it's all subjective. I just think A LOT of people who maybe used to f*** with Eminem's music in the past, don't anymore because of those reasons. He makes bad music now and still fully embraces a rap style he thinks should be seen as impressive to rap fans.
It's also very likely just a simple case of his style of rap aging out and having zero appeal anymore and him lacking the ability to evolve/age with grace the way his peers have.
So the fact that the highest charting Kendrick album is GKMC means what, exactly?
GKMC is generally regarded as Kendrick's best album lol. It's the album people go back to the most.
All of this discussion really just boils down to a simple fact: Eminem doesn't make good music anymore and hasn't done so in decades.
He's been rapping fast/using metaphors/punchlines/double entendres for decades now. His problem now is he doesn't have s*** to say. You go through the lyrics of an Eminem verse and it's a whole load of nothing. Being 50 years old and rapping like a 12 year-old who just discovered how to rhyme is not cute.
It's rather unfortunate that he still thinks that in 2022, anyone gives a f*** about him being impressive technically. We've seen all he can do lyrically. Doing more of that won't impress anyone and he's done more to damage his legacy in the last 15 or so years than help it in any real way with the gutter-level of music he's released.
You listen to his peers like Jay Z and Nas and you can see the clear difference in the s*** they're saying at their age and the s*** he's saying at his.

Of course, it's all subjective. I just think A LOT of people who maybe used to f*** with Eminem's music in the past, don't anymore because of those reasons. He makes bad music now and still fully embraces a rap style he thinks should be seen as impressive to rap fans.
It's also very likely just a simple case of his style of rap aging out and having zero appeal anymore and him lacking the ability to evolve/age with grace the way his peers have.
He f***ed up with Revival but people have loved Em since. Like I said his last two albums stream numbers are really good.