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    theDonandOnly

    i don't really like his music but Em doesn't deserve to be seen by the younger generation like Elvis in the future.

    Things like his relationship with 50 and him not building his legacy off covers make it a completely different situation. Also the Elvis situation is just worse cos of what followed it in rock. That's not directly his fault but he's seen as the pinnacle of originators being pushed out of the genre.

    Elvis doesn't really deserve it either as he had many friends that reported how great of a supporter of black music he was.

    Mohamed Ali was at his ranch till the day he passed away..., they vouched for eachother and what we know of Mohamed Ali is he would never vouch for a racist...
    Yet that sentiment made him less credible after his death... his legacy is def tarnished due to it.
    Elvis even gifted him a custom robe


    Eminem is credited for reaching a greater audience.
    Well white people supported hip hop in smaller numbers before (public enemy toured in the uk in the late 80s + krs-one is quoted as saying he gets more love in Europe than the US+ dmx rocked Woodstock and had platinum plaques in 1998 eminem would end up selling twice as much as the highest selling at that time, dmx )

    If we look at that greater audience that eminem introduced to rap... there's this stereotype of
    "I only listen to eminem, lil Wayne is s*** rapper that should work at McDonald's, rap is like a mountain..."

    y'all may have never encountered it but I've seen them be either insensitive/dismissive to race topics to borderline racist to proudly defending racist pseudoscience (actually had that debate with a stan, he believed that blacks were genetically inferior 😐...)

  • Aug 17, 2020
    GuyGuyHighFive

    At least that’s when he sounded good Lmaoo

    facts its my second fav em album

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    DonutHole

    Elvis doesn't really deserve it either as he had many friends that reported how great of a supporter of black music he was.

    Mohamed Ali was at his ranch till the day he passed away..., they vouched for eachother and what we know of Mohamed Ali is he would never vouch for a racist...
    Yet that sentiment made him less credible after his death... his legacy is def tarnished due to it.
    Elvis even gifted him a custom robe


    Eminem is credited for reaching a greater audience.
    Well white people supported hip hop in smaller numbers before (public enemy toured in the uk in the late 80s + krs-one is quoted as saying he gets more love in Europe than the US+ dmx rocked Woodstock and had platinum plaques in 1998 eminem would end up selling twice as much as the highest selling at that time, dmx )

    If we look at that greater audience that eminem introduced to rap... there's this stereotype of
    "I only listen to eminem, lil Wayne is s*** rapper that should work at McDonald's, rap is like a mountain..."

    y'all may have never encountered it but I've seen them be either insensitive/dismissive to race topics to borderline racist to proudly defending racist pseudoscience (actually had that debate with a stan, he believed that blacks were genetically inferior 😐...)

    with Elvis i was purely going off the music. i don't really know about his life. but i do think there's a bit of difference in what Elvis represents of his genre/era and also cos he didn't make original music. To a lot of people I think Elvis represents rock becoming a white-dominated genre. That's not his fault, but with Em that never happened after him.

    And yeah i think i've met those type of people irl. It's scary to see how many people believe that s***. It can be very online, but just as a high profile example our PM in the UK had to fire someone this year for cosigning similar theories about black intelligence.

    edit: that robe is cool af

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    BANNED

    Where are you from just curious?

    Louisiana nerd

  • Aug 17, 2020

    If you believe eminem is racist for saying dumb s*** about a woman he was f***ing bang your head against the wall and lose the rest of your brain cells

  • Nuja 🫶🏾
    Aug 17, 2020
    blah

    How do you think Bob Dylan feels about durags?

    he probably thinks they are stylish, he definitely has considered wearing one

  • Racists listen to Eminem?

    I thought we been knew this

  • Aug 17, 2020
    santi

    Do you just say RIECH

  • Aug 17, 2020
    Troy Ave Stan

    Can y’all stop posting this racist

    hows he racist

  • Aug 17, 2020
    NiceLikeChrist

    We cant even hate on this when this exactly what Farrakhan out here looking like

  • Aug 17, 2020
    2words

    Du-rag Em and body builder 50

    and velour suit dr.dre

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    theDonandOnly

    i don't really like his music but Em doesn't deserve to be seen by the younger generation like Elvis in the future.

    Things like his relationship with 50 and him not building his legacy off covers make it a completely different situation. Also the Elvis situation is just worse cos of what followed it in rock. That's not directly his fault but he's seen as the pinnacle of originators being pushed out of the genre.

    Exactly Em did way more to uplift Black culture than stifle it in my opinion.

    Post Malone is modern day Elvis.

  • Aug 17, 2020
    BestShelvedRapper

    Prime Eminem Lol

    Eminem Show/8 Mile era

  • boylife

    Cancel him.

    This boy life from level?

  • Aug 17, 2020

    Eminem is black on the inside.

  • Aug 17, 2020
    KOLLAPS

    Exactly Em did way more to uplift Black culture than stifle it in my opinion.

    Post Malone is modern day Elvis.

  • Aug 17, 2020
    HITSLIKEDIETCOKE

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    Classic.

  • Aug 17, 2020
    Shabazz999

    i like the new ktt counter narrative that eminem detractors are the actual white suburban kids

    i been black my whole life, from black ass Newark, NJ and i dont know many people my age or older who was actively jacking his music from the time I was a kid in the mid 2000s to now, and his fan base online are extremely anti-hip hop and racist af

    yall cant ignore that

    Idk about other people on ITT, but I’m specifically talking about people on KTT.

    And I’m Black too but live in the NJ suburbs and can tell you that all these suburban kids think Eminem is lame as f***. Em having a portion of his fanbase be racist doesn’t make him racist, which is the exact narrative people on this website like to run with. BLK saying White suburban kids are trying to appeal to Black people by s***ting on Eminem and pretending that
    A) Eminem has no Black fans
    B) He has had zero impact on Black culture and
    C) He is consciously culturally appropriating Hip-Hop with the intention to undermine Black artists (meanwhile they f***ing love Post Malone )

    Both Eminem having racist fans and racist White liberals weaponizing that against him can be true at once.

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    KOLLAPS

    Exactly Em did way more to uplift Black culture than stifle it in my opinion.

    Post Malone is modern day Elvis.

    elvis lowkey worse than post tbh

    he is an amazing vocalist tho (elvis not post )

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    theDonandOnly

    elvis lowkey worse than post tbh

    he is an amazing vocalist tho (elvis not post )

    Nah cuz Post Malone is doing what Elvis did in 2020. Elvis was doing that before the Civil Rights Movement even started. Post Malone should know better, and does, but doesn’t care.

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    KOLLAPS

    Exactly Em did way more to uplift Black culture than stifle it in my opinion.

    Post Malone is modern day Elvis.

    If you don't think Elvis did the same thing you don't know 5os rock. Elvis is the reason all the teenagers were even allowed to listen to the rest of the black rockers. And he gave plenty credit where it was due as far as his influences.

    "I thank God for Elvis Presley. I thank the Lord for sending Elvis to open the door so I could walk down the road...”

    — Little Richard

  • ya'll think op thought this thread would be a intrinsically deep thread worth 7+ pages

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