so... not her body her choice? we should police who adult women are allowed to date? ok Taliban
Idk you stop talking to me
wait this is all speculation and the thread is full of everyone having a dumbass argument about what specific size of an age gap makes you a pedo
lock this trash
If anybody disagrees with me in this thread I am gonna ask the mods to mute them.
I don't care that almost every country is on lockdown and that being muted on this site could cause someone to hurt them self, because it might be there only social contact in these hard days.
But if people don't agree with me, then I can't tolerate them and they do not deserve to have a voice in a discussion!
I fight the freedom and open minded people who 100 % agrees with me!!
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wait this is all speculation and the thread is full of everyone having a dumbass argument about what specific size of an age gap makes you a pedo
lock this trash
It's not really speculation. Seems pretty clear. The age thing isn't even the issue here.
It's not really speculation. Seems pretty clear. The age thing isn't even the issue here.
if thats the case then its incredible no one in here is even talking about it
It's not really speculation. Seems pretty clear. The age thing isn't even the issue here.
ofc its speculation lol she was intentionally vague as f*** and literally stated outright that she didnt want people to try and find the person and deliver mob justice
sure it could be Ezra but we have no idea
ofc its speculation lol she was intentionally vague as f*** and literally stated outright that she didnt want people to try and find the person and deliver mob justice
sure it could be Ezra but we have no idea
Did she really say that? That's odd that she doesn't want people finding them and delivering mob justice while also giving specific enough details about Ezra's persona life, mutual collaborators/friends, and more to find the person...
Seems pretty obv she's talking about Ezra
ofc its speculation lol she was intentionally vague as f*** and literally stated outright that she didnt want people to try and find the person and deliver mob justice
sure it could be Ezra but we have no idea
If shawty said his actual name, would you still say it’s speculation?
Most sa victims with famous abusers know it’s most likely not safe to drop names.
If shawty said his actual name, would you still say it’s speculation?
Most sa victims with famous abusers know it’s most likely not safe to drop names.
No I'd say its an accusation thats pretty strongly supported
but when the victim has written that this kind of thread is exactly what she doesnt want then im not gonna sit here and speculate about it
Did she really say that? That's odd that she doesn't want people finding them and delivering mob justice while also giving specific enough details about Ezra's persona life, mutual collaborators/friends, and more to find the person...
Seems pretty obv she's talking about Ezra
"The terms that so many stories of sexual assault are forced into, and the demands placed on victims and abusers to look and act in a recognizable way, make the thought of naming my abuser in public seem like something that would only cause me more pain. So does the possibility of any self-appointed vigilantes attempting to do so on my behalf. The notion of monitoring a mob I didn’t ask for sounds exhausting, whether this mob is coming for his head or mine. The awareness that my experience would be transmuted into a fascination with his moral character makes me want to get offline forever. It is easy to imagine a world where audiences’ infatuation with fame takes priority over a survivor’s needs."
The issue here isn't really his age or her age. It's that he ignored her needs, concerns, and coerced her to have s***wrongfully.
People of differing ages can have healthy relationships but that requires a healthy couple.
Half this thread is people arguing over 17 vs. 18 when people should legit be focused on the fact the guy potentially raped her.
agree. the age stuff is silly. if he raped her, then that's awful. not sure if it's even ezra, but so far she said she was too drunk to consent, which is different than violent forcible rape because he simply could not have known she that drunk. some people can be blackout drunk and appear pretty lucid and in control of their faculties. as far as coercion, I still don't really grasp that. if you keep saying no and someone keeps asking, leave? keep saying no? whatever you do, don't say yes. physical coercion is different, but if it's just persistently asking, that is at worst immoral, but not criminal
"The terms that so many stories of sexual assault are forced into, and the demands placed on victims and abusers to look and act in a recognizable way, make the thought of naming my abuser in public seem like something that would only cause me more pain. So does the possibility of any self-appointed vigilantes attempting to do so on my behalf. The notion of monitoring a mob I didn’t ask for sounds exhausting, whether this mob is coming for his head or mine. The awareness that my experience would be transmuted into a fascination with his moral character makes me want to get offline forever. It is easy to imagine a world where audiences’ infatuation with fame takes priority over a survivor’s needs."
I'm on her side here 100%, but then literally why drop Jay-Z's name or say he has a kid or bring up exact ages rather than speak about the actual issues she's trying to raise awareness to?
Stuff like that will make people (rightfully so) find out who it is and react accordingly.
agree. the age stuff is silly. if he raped her, then that's awful. not sure if it's even ezra, but so far she said she was too drunk to consent, which is different than violent forcible rape because he simply could not have known she that drunk. some people can be blackout drunk and appear pretty lucid and in control of their faculties. as far as coercion, I still don't really grasp that. if you keep saying no and someone keeps asking, leave? keep saying no? whatever you do, don't say yes. physical coercion is different, but if it's just persistently asking, that is at worst immoral, but not criminal
Thats....not how that goes my nigga.
Ofc it’s a drake stan going hard for 30 year old men dating 18 year olds
what should the age of consent be? what should the maximum age that an 18 year old is allowed to date be? tumblr completely fried y'alls brains. if he raped her, the issue is that he raped her. he could be 50 or 18 and it wouldn't matter because rape is illegal and wrong
agree. the age stuff is silly. if he raped her, then that's awful. not sure if it's even ezra, but so far she said she was too drunk to consent, which is different than violent forcible rape because he simply could not have known she that drunk. some people can be blackout drunk and appear pretty lucid and in control of their faculties. as far as coercion, I still don't really grasp that. if you keep saying no and someone keeps asking, leave? keep saying no? whatever you do, don't say yes. physical coercion is different, but if it's just persistently asking, that is at worst immoral, but not criminal
I'd rather you not align yourself or your victim-blaming with my statement, please and thank you.
I'm on her side here 100%, but then literally why drop Jay-Z's name or say he has a kid or bring up exact ages rather than speak about the actual issues she's trying to raise awareness to?
Stuff like that will make people (rightfully so) find out who it is and react accordingly.
Because every victim has their own way of trying to heal from their trauma.
I can imagine that even writing that took a lot.
Because every victim has their own way of trying to heal from their trauma.
I can imagine that even writing that took a lot.
I understand that, but when she provides explicit info outing the person and then follows it up with "but I don't want to name them because it'll make me feel worse and I don't want to control mobs coming to my defense," I'm just like....then don't provide details.
That mob coming to her defense only did so because they're rightfully angry about her being taken advantage of, if that makes sense.
I'm on her side here 100%, but then literally why drop Jay-Z's name or say he has a kid or bring up exact ages rather than speak about the actual issues she's trying to raise awareness to?
Stuff like that will make people (rightfully so) find out who it is and react accordingly.
she didnt mention jay z here that was a different separate piece and with the dad thing she mentioned multiple older men who had preyed on her and were now dads. it doesnt necessary implicate that ezra is THE abuser she's mentioning here
I do think she views Ezra as a predator for dating her as an 18 year old but Ezra being the abuser she's referencing here is just speculation resulting from him being associated with her around that time
regardless this is exactly what she explicitly asked people not to do
she didnt mention jay z here that was a different separate piece and with the dad thing she mentioned multiple older men who had preyed on her and were now dads. it doesnt necessary implicate that ezra is THE abuser she's mentioning here
I do think she views Ezra as a predator for dating her as an 18 year old but Ezra being the abuser she's referencing here is just speculation resulting from him being associated with her around that time
regardless this is exactly what she explicitly asked people not to do
Okay that makes more sense. It seemed like she was narrowing down the options pretty clearly to Ezra just to be like "don't assume, guys!"
I don't want to do anything that contributes to her trauma or feeling of being used.
what should the age of consent be? what should the maximum age that an 18 year old is allowed to date be? tumblr completely fried y'alls brains. if he raped her, the issue is that he raped her. he could be 50 or 18 and it wouldn't matter because rape is illegal and wrong
Nigga it’s my opinion. If you like super young girls cool do you.
I'd rather you not align yourself or your victim-blaming with my statement, please and thank you.
"victim blaming" is not a thing. if u get robbed and file a police report, the cops will ask if ur car was unlocked, if u had valuables visible, etc.
this entire thread reeks of cultural elitism as age gaps are common in much of the non Western, non English speaking world. this is essentially calling all Africans and Indians sexual predators
if Ezra raped her, it does not matter what age he is. and literally every relationship has a power dynamic. we might as well ban interracial dating or rich people dating poor people for the same reason
Okay that makes more sense. It seemed like she was narrowing down the options pretty clearly to Ezra just to be like "don't assume, guys!"
I don't want to do anything that contributes to her trauma or feeling of being used.
yea I think the idea that theres explicit info here implicating that its Ezra is not true and OP has made that kinda misleading w the summary
most of what's in the OP is corroborating that Ezra and Tavi did have a relationship not that Ezra is the person outlined here
but yea imma leave it at that cause i dont wanna be in here a***yzing it even though it sucks that its a possibility
Nigga it’s my opinion. If you like super young girls cool do you.
that's a very heteronormative statement. what if I like older guys? and yes, it's your opinion. a culturally elitist and uninformed one. go to most Indian or African households and you'll see an age gap, and guess what, they're not predators
but if u are so gung ho about power dynamics then Michelle Obama is a predator, John Legend is a predator, and interracial relationships or skinny / fat relationships or rich /poor relationships should also be frowned upon